Robert: I think it would be more accurate to say that technological meme evolution was caused by the biological evolution, rather than being the extension of it, since they are in fact two quite different evolutionary systems, with different kinds of populations/survival conditions.
I would say that in some sense, there is already a machine species, even if not independent. This machine species just have not yet found a way of staying alive and breed outside human minds. Is this a helpful perspective? :-)... Robert, Not quite. Yes technological evolution is much faster and is a phenomenon unto itself. But *we're* the ones who are going/ thinking faster (although they alter us in turn). But they - machines - don't truly evolve yet at all. They have no intentions, aren't changing themselves - they can't stand up on savannahs, (or whatever we did), crawl out of the sea etc. as living species did, and aren't fiddling with their genomes. I think it's important to make the distinction for everyone's sake (esp. AGI - underlined several times) because "living machines" - truly "autonomous mobile robots" involve a whole different paradigm and way of thinking, than existing machines, and we're just beginning to get our heads round that paradigm. For example, living machines will like living creatures have to be "psychoeconomies", having to conduct a whole set of activities with limited resources in real time without any ability to switch off ever again. I doubt that anyone's truly trying to construct either AGI's or robots along those lines - and before you leap to contradict, you need to think about that - i.e. what's entailed in being alive - v. carefully ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
