Mike Tintner wrote:
Richard: Mike Tintner wrote:
No one in AGI is aiming for common sense consciousness, are they?
Inasmuch as I understand what you mean by that, yes of course.
Both common sense and consciousness.
As Ben said, it's something like "multisensory integrative
consciousness" - i.e. you track a subject/scene with all senses
simultaneously and integratedly.
You're crossing a road - you track both the oncoming car and your body
with all your senses at once - see a continuous moving image of the
car, hear the noise of the engine and tires, possibly smell it if
there's a smell of gasoline, have a kinaesthetic sense of your body in
relation to the car, including a sense of up/down, left/right etc and
are doing "body thinking/mapping" about whether your body and the car
will or won't collide if you move at such-and-such speeds, and whether
your nerves and muscles can supply the necessary hormones and power in
time. and no doubt there's a few other senses involved that I've left
out! And all this sensory processing is integrated and cross-referenced
and cross-checked - you'd be really disturbed if the car looks as if
it's going slowly, but sounds as if it's going fast, just as people are
disturbed when they see a card of black hearts.
You guys seem to think this - true common sense consciousness - can all
be cracked in a year or two. I think there's probably a lot of good
reasons - and therefore major creative problems - why it took a billion
years of evolution to achieve.
I have been working on getting exactly that sort of cognitive system
since the mid 1980s.
I don't know: perhaps you think it is especially difficult because you
have not done much work on it.
Conventional approaches to AI may well have trouble in this area, but
since my approach has been directed at these kinds of issues since the
very beginning, to me it looks relatively straightforward in principle.
The real issues are elsewhere.
Richard Loosemore
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