On 03/10/2008 06:17 AM, Mark Waser wrote:
Which, if either, of 'including all of humanity' rather than just 'friendly humanity', or 'excluding non-human friendlies (initially)' do you see as the greater risk?

I see 'excluding non-human friendlies (initially)' as a tremendously greater risk.
As of now, we are aware of no non-human friendlies, so the set of excluded beings will in all likelihood be the empty set.

Actually, let me rephrase your question and turn it around -- Which, if either, of 'not protecting all of humanity from Friendlies rather than just friendly humanity' or 'being actively unfriendly' do you see as a greater risk?


To answer your question, I don't see the "people are evil and will screw it all up" scenario as being even remotely likely, for reasons of self-interest among others. And I think it very likely that if it turns out that including non-human friendlies is the right thing to do, that the system will do as designed and renormalize accordingly.

As for the other option, my question was not about the dangers relating to *who is or is not protected*, but rather *whose volition is taken into account* in calculating the CEV, since your approach considers only the volition of friendly humanity (and non-human friendlies but not non-friendly humanity), while Eliezer's includes all of humanity.

joseph

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