Bob, et al,

On 4/20/08, Bob Mottram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Until a true AGI is developed I think it will remain necessary to pay
> programmers to write programs, at least some of the time.  You can't
> always rely upon voluntary effort, especially when the problem you
> want to solve is fairly obscure.


There is true need, and then there is a quite different perceived need.
There are traditional tools, and then there are appropriate tools.
There are accepted paradigms, and then there are usable paradigms.
There is knowledge, and then there are epiphanies.

A not-so-funny thing happened on the way to the 21st century. A growing
feeling that programmers were a dime-a-dozen and that gray hair was a
disabling condition grew to almost universal acceptance. The net effect of
this was to reduce the working careers of programmers to too little to
really "get it", and thereby plunged the entire field into a morass of
mediocrity. The ~1% of stellar performers who could produce tight designs
for hyper-complex systems and quickly code them to work were lost among the
90% unemployed or underemployed, resulting in Corporate America simply
abandoning hyper-complex designs as being unacceptably risky. In another
couple of decades this phenomenon will make the short journey from
misconception to reality as the current stellar performers fade away on
boards like this.

I know of NO larger corporation who currently fails to fit this pattern.
Have you met and talked with any of the current crop of PhDs? The BIG thing
that I notice is that they actually BELIEVE the stuff that they are told in
college, rather than simply accepting it as one view and continuing the
search for better answers as past generations did. Even the chairman of the
local major university's CS department fits this pattern, as he schedules
colloquiums a year in advance! This combination of corporations and
graduates is STABLE - it can never advance beyond the current state of the
art in any area that is beyond individual achievement.

Hence, Bob is at once both right and wrong:
Right, because major projects will doubtless require more than volunteer
effort.
Wrong, because the supply of adequately good people for hire is very rapidly
dwindling.

Of course, this constitutes a reductio ad absurdum situation establishing
that the underlying assumption, that someone is going to build AGI, is very
probably wrong.

Have I missed something here?

Steve Richfield

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