Ok, so all meanings must be grounded by images (or memories in the relevant type of sensory data). Sure. Representing the data is easy, so the hard part is the manipulations that allow "simulations" to occur. A working theory of how the simulations are pulled off in the first place is needed. In addition, we need control mechanisms that decide when to simulate what, learning mechanisms to find the best model in the space of models we can represent, and so on.
But at this point I think we're essentially back to symbolic AI with the standard problems and methods, except we're holding back where we might claim to "understand" text w/o sensory experience of its subject matter. So my question is: what's the difference? (Unless it really is just holding back those claims of text understanding w/o real-world sensory data-- which is a fine point.) On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Abram, > > Just to illustrate further, here's the opening lines of today's Times > sports report on a football match.[Liverpool v Chelsea] How on earth could > this be understood without massive imaginative simulation? [Stephen?] And > without mainly imaginative memories of football matches? > > "John Arne Riise stood doubled over in his tiny corner of football hell. > Agony engulfed him. One by one, teammates offered a pat on the back, a > handshake, or just a touch, some form of human contact to show they cared. > None of it did much good. He walked, step by aching step, to the sanctuary > of the dressing-room, discarding bits of the apparatus of the professional > footballer as he went. A tie-up here, a shin pad there. > > He clamped down on his water bottle and held it between his teeth, like a > bit to stop him gnawing through his bottom lip. A camera zoomed in to show > muscles around his eyes and mouth tensing as his mind worked overtime. He > looked like Harold Shand being driven to his execution in the final scenes > of The Long Good Friday. A replay of every mistake he had made to get there > was showing on his face." > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
