John G: "human musical pattern extrapolation fidelity is a sort of an averaging of the human minds full capability of an astonishingly robust pattern recognizing ability...I feel that our modern audial
pattern recognition ability has been extremely dumbed down"

The arts as seen by a mathematician. Because what you do is pattern extrapolation, you assume that's what the arts do.

It's actually obvious if you care to listen, that music involves a combination of pattern fitting/extrapolation and pattern BREAKING. The whole point of a pop song is that it involves a creative idea - a *twist* on existing patterns. That's why people listen - to hear something NEW and different as well as old and similar. Far from being dumbed down, humans have never been so insatiable in their demand for novelty.

And that is an essential feature of a true AGI - not just pattern seeking, but pattern breaking. Is that in Ben's or anyone else's theory?

What you just did is the equivalent of saying: "all these jokes are about the same thing - changing lightbulbs". How many mathematicians does it take to change a lightbulb? An infinite number. And they still can't get the joke.

That was my first go. So I looked it up and there are a lot of versions - almost all interestingly with the same basic message:

# How many mathematicians does it take to replace a lightbulb (2)? One: He gives it to six Californians, thereby solves the problem by reducing it to a previous joke.

# How many mathematicians does it take to replace a lightbulb (3)? The answer is intuitively obvious.

# How many mathematical logicians does it take to replace a lightbulb? None: They can't do it, but they can prove that it can be done.

# How many numerical analysts does it take to replace a lightbulb? 3.9967: (after six iterations).

# How many classical geometers does it take to replace a lightbulb? None: You can't do it with a straight edge and a compass.

# How many constructivist mathematicians does it take to replace a lightbulb? None: They do not believe in infinitesimal rotations.

# How many simulationists does it take to replace a lightbulb? Infinity: Each one builds a fully validated model, but the light actually never goes on.

# How many functions does it take to replace a lightbulb? The integral of f: But that's not definite.





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