John:When you describe this you have to be careful how much computation your
mind
is doing and taking for granted. You make many assumptions just by looking
at the pic and saying these are signs that this man is conscious. And saying
that a handheld TV is some sort of model, ya that's making massive
assumptions and shortcuts to the point of assuming that 99% of your model
already exists where it doesn't; you're just pointing at data feeds and
neglecting numerous other details which are the most important.
John,
You are - if I've understood you - talking about the machinery and
programming that produce and help to process the movie of consciousness.
I'm not in any way denying all that or its complexity. But the first thing
is to define and model consciousness, before you work out that machinery
etc.
It may sound simple to you, because you're naturally enamoured of the
programming/machinery part, and trying to work out sophisticated programming
etc may sound much smarter and more exciting.
But actually starting with that "simple" model is much more important. If
you don't know, or only half know, or are radically confused about, what
you're trying to explain, all the technical ideas you may come up with will
be worthless.
And that's the same mistake people are making with AGI generally - no one
has a model of what general intelligence involves, or of the kind of
problems it must solve - what it actually DOES - and everyone has left that
till later, and is instead busy with all the technical programming that they
find exciting - with the "how it works" side - without knowing whether
anything they're doing is really necessary or relevant..
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agi
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