On Jun 1, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Mark Waser wrote:
I find it very interesting that you can't even answer a straight yes-
or-no question without resorting to obscuring BS and inventing
strawmen.
By "obscuring BS and inventing strawmen" I assume you mean answers
that do not fit into your narrow conceptual framework.
Are you actually claiming that neurotransmitter levels are
irrelevant or are you implementing them?
Neurotransmitter levels are irrelevant. The function may or may not
be, and the function would be directly implemented in the former case.
Are you claiming that leakage along the axons and dendrites is
irrelevant or are you modeling it?
Axon and dendrite leakage is irrelevant. The function may or may not
be, and the function would be directly implemented in the former case.
Two simple questions. Two choices for each. Try answering them
without the obscuring BS.
What is it with you and the false dichotomies?
What you fail to state is the reason I would implement any particular
characteristic of wetware neurons; what function is being gained by
doing so? Hint: if I can implement it in code I can pretty trivially
ascertain its function by analysis. This is the whole "cargo cult AI"
thing I was talking about. You insist it is valuable to add
objectively functionless features, and you have hard time explaining
what features are supposedly missing if we *don't* implement things
that lack functionality. Sounds like a waste of time to me, unless you
think these features do something magical.
Step back a second and justify adding gee-gaws to the models first.
For the neural characteristics that have a function, we don't need to
copy them -- we can implement the functionality directly. Algorithmic
equivalence and all that.
J. Andrew Rogers
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