--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but I don't agree that predicting **which** AGI designs can lead > to the emergent properties corresponding to general intelligence, > is pragmatically impossible to do in an analytical and rational way ...
OK, I grant you that you may be able to do that. I believe that we can be extremely clever in this regard. An example of that is an implementation of a Turing Machine within the Game of Life: http://rendell-attic.org/gol/tm.htm What a beautiful construction. But it's completely contrived. What you're suggesting is equivalent, because your design is contrived by your own intelligence. [I understand that within the Novamente idea is room for non-deterministic (for practical purposes) behavior, so it doesn't suffer from the usual complexity-inspired criticisms of purely logical systems.] But whatever achievement you make, it's just one particular design that may prove effective in some set of domains. And there's the rub - the fact that your design is at least partially static will limit its applicability in some set of domains. I make this argument more completely here: http://www.machineslikeus.com/cms/news/design-bad-or-why-artificial-intelligence-needs-artificial-life or http://tinyurl.com/3coavb If you design a robot, you limit its degrees of freedom. And there will be environments it cannot get around in. By contrast, if you have a design that is capable of changing itself (even if that means from generation to generation), then creative configurations can be discovered. The same basic idea works in the mental arena as well. If you specify the mental machinery, there will be environments it cannot get around in, so to speak. There will be important ways in which it is unable to adapt. You are limiting your design by your own intelligence, which though considerable, is no match for the creativity manifest in a single biological cell. Terren ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=106510220-47b225 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com