Could you say that it takes a complex system to know a complex system? If an
AGI is going to try to say predict the weather, it doesn't have infinite cpu
cycles to simulate so it'll have to come up with something better. Sure it
can build a probabilistic historical model but that is kind of cheating. So
for it to emulate the weather, I think, or to semi-understand it there has
to be some complex systems activity going on there in its cognition. No?

I'm not sure that this what Richard is taking about but an AGI is going to
bump into complex systems all over the place. Also it will encounter what
seems to be complex and later on it may determine that it is not. And
perhaps, a key component in the cognition engine in order for it to
understand complexity differentials in systems from a relationist standpoint
it would need some sort of complexity .. not a comparator but a...sort of
harmonic leverage. Can't think of the right words....

Either way this complexity thing is getting rather annoying because on one
hand you think it can drasticly enhance an AGI and is required and on the
other hand you think it is unnecessary - I'm not talking about creativity or
thought emergence or similar but complexity as integral component in a
computational cognition system.

John



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