> Assuming I'm a Troll is pretty harsh, isnt it ?
>
> I just wished to pitch my invention to SI in hopes of
> aid in developing this ... Along the lines of "friendly" AI.
> This innovation is the 1st affect-
> ive language analyzer incorporating ethical/motivational
> terms, serving in the role of interactive computer
> interface. It enables a computer to reason and speak in an
> ethical fashion, serving in roles specifying sound human
> judgement: such as public relations or security functions.
> This innovation is formally based on a multi-level
> hierarchy of the traditional groupings of virtues, values,
> and ideals, collectively arranged as subsets within a
> hierarchy of metaperspectives - as partially depicted below.

It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics.  Back in my college
days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept
interrupting me to ask:  What does it do?  Tell me what it does.  I don't
understand what your system does.  What he wanted was
input-function-output.
He didn't care about my fancy data structure or architecture goals, he
just wanted to know what it DID.

Mike Archbold

>
> Glory--Prudence          Honor--Justice
> Providence--Faith        Liberty--Hope
> Grace--Beauty             Free-will--Truth
> Tranquility--Ecstasy     Equality--Bliss
>
> Dignity--Temperance     Integrity--Fortitude
> Civility--Charity       Austerity--Decency
> Magnanim.--Goodness    Equanimity--Wisdom
> Love--Joy                Peace--Harmony
>
> The systematic organization underlying this ethical
> hierarchy allows for extreme efficiency in programming,
> eliminating much of the associated redundancy, providing
> a precise determination of motivational parameters at
> issue during a given verbal interchange.
> This AI platform is organized as a tandem-nested expert
> system, composed of a primary affective-language analyzer
> overseen by a master control-unit (that coordinates the
> verbal interactions over real time). Through an elaborate
> matching procedure, the precise motivational parameters
> are accurately determined (defined as the passive-monitoring
> mode). This basic determination, in turn, serves as the
> basis for a response repertoire tailored to the computer
> (the true AI simulation mode). This innovation is completely
> novel in its ability to simulate emotionally charged language:
> an achievement that has previously eluded AI researchers due
> to the lack of an adequate model of motivation in general.
> As such, it represents a **pure language simulation,** effectively
> bypassing many of the limitations plaguing current robotic
> research. Affiliated potential applications extend to the
> roles of switchboard/receptionist and personal
> assistant/companion (in a time-share mode).
>
> Opinions ?
>
> John L
>
> http://www.ethicalvalues.com
> http://www.ethicalvalues.info
> http://www.emotionchip.net
> http://www.global-solutions.org
> http://www.world-peace.org
> http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/schematics.html
> http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/behaviorism.html
> http://www.forebrain.org
> http://www.charactervalues.com
> http://www.charactervalues.org
> http://www.charactervalues.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Paulsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS
>
>
>> Matt,
>>
>> Never underestimate the industriousness of a PATENT TROLL.  He's already
>> been granted a new patent for the same concept, except (apparently, I
>> haven't read the patent yet, this time for "an ethical chip").  Patent
>> #7236963 (awarded in 2007) for the "emotion chip."  Don't worry, it's as
>> indefensible as the first one.  Same random buzzword generator,
>> different
>> title.
>>
>> The problem is giving one of these morons a technology patent is like
>> giving an ADHD kid a loaded gun.  You know they're just looking to use
>> it
>> as blackmail for some quick royalty fees.  The posting here was, no
>> doubt,
>> for "intimidation purposes."  Of course, somebody ought to tell him the
>> AGI crowd doesn't have much use for a solution to the "ethical"
>> artificial
>> intelligence problem (whatever the hell that is).  Indeed, even after he
>> tells us what it is, it still doesn't make any sense.  And I quote from
>> the (first) patent's Abstract "A new model of motivational behavior,
>> described as a ten-level metaperspectival hierarchy of..."
>>
>> Say what?  There is no such word as "metaperspectival."  Not in English,
>> at least.  Yet, that's the word he uses to "define" his invention.  But,
>> it gets better...
>>
>> "...ethical terms, serves as the foundation for an ethical simulation of
>> artificial intelligence."  Well, I'm glad he intends to conduct his
>> simulation ethically.  I think what he really meant, however, was &#8220;a
>> simulation of ethical artificial intelligence.&#8221;  He does get half a
>> grammar point for using the correct article (&#8220;an&#8221;) before
&#8220;ethical.&#8221;
>> You
>> don't see that much these days. But, ah... we have another problem here.
>> You see, artificial intelligence IS ALREADY a simulation.  In
>> particular,
>> it is a simulation of human intelligence. Hence the word "artificial."
>> At
>> least, that's the idea.  Does he really mean his patent applies to a
>> simulation of a simulation?  Given that most existing AI software is
>> computationally intensive and gasping for breath most of the time,
>> that's
>> got to be one slow-ass AI invention!
>>
>> Again, from the Abstract of the first patent...
>>
>> "This AI system is organized as a tandem, nested...&#8221;  Sigh.  Where I
>> come
>> from (planet earth), tandem and nested are mutually exclusive modifiers.
>> It's either tandem (i.e., &#8220;along side of&#8221; or &#8220;behind
each other&#8221;) or
>> it's
>> nested (i.e., &#8220;inside of&#8221;).  Can't be both at the same
time.  Sorry.
>>
>> Continuing, still in the Abstract...
>>
>> &#8220;...overseen by a master control unit &#8211; expert system
(coordinating the
>> motivational interchanges over real time).&#8221;
>>
>> OMG.  Let me see if I have this straight.  He has succeeded in patenting
>> a
>> simulation of a simulation with a &#8220;master control unit&#8221;
that is, itself,
>> another simulation.  The only thing that contraption will do in real
>> time
>> is sit there looking stupid.  That's presuming he could make it work
>> which, as far as I can tell by scanning his patent, is right up there
>> with
>> the probability we'll solve the energy crises and the greenhouse effect
>> using cold fusion.
>>
>> I have a good dozen of these "gems," most of them from the Abstract
>> alone.
>> It gets REALLY weird when you read the patent description where he talks
>> about how this invention solves the "affective language understanding"
>> problem heretofore unsolved.  News Alert: the entire NLP "problem" has
>> yet
>> to be solved (after 50 of trying by some of the best minds in the
>> world).
>>
>> I have a PDF version of the newer patent (#7236963) which I will send
>> (off-list) to anyone interested.  Be advised, it's 3MB+ in size.
>> Alternatively, you can read about it (see a picture of Mr. LaMuth, and
>> download the PDF) at www.emotionchip.net.  I also have a PDF version of
>> the other, earlier, patent he holds (#6587846) &#8211; the supposed
&#8220;recently
>> issued&#8221; patent (actually, granted in 2003).  I will also send this
>> off-list to anyone interested (it's only about 1.3MB).  Frankly, the
>> reason these PDFs are so large is that every page is a graphic image.
>> The
>> documents contain no data stored as text (that I could find).  This is
>> pretty typical with U.S. Patent Office documents.  Somebody there really
>> likes (or liked) the TIFF image format.  Unfortunately, this makes the
>> Search function in Acrobat (or FoxIt Reader) completely useless.
>>
>> BTW, this guy apparently uses a dialup ISP.  Yeah.  State of the art.
>> Sheesh!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt Mahoney wrote:
>>> This is a real patent, unfortunately...
>>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F6587846
>>>
>>> But I think it will expire before anyone has the technology to
>>> implement
>>> it. :-)
>>>
>>> -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
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