On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Valentina Poletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim & Vlad:
>
> that is a difficult question because it depends a lot on your
> database. Actually Marko Rodriguez has attempted this in a program that
> uses a database of related words from the University of South Florida. This
> program is able to understand very simple analogies such as
> Which word of the second list best fits in the first list?
> bear, cow, dog, tiger: turtle, carp, parrot, lion
>
> Obviously this program is very limited. If you just need to just search
> words correspondence, I'd go with Vlad's suggestion. Otherwise there is a
> lot to be implemented, in terms of layers, inhibitory vs excitatory
> connections, concept from stimuli and so on..What strikes me in AGI is that
> so many researchers try to build an AGI with the presupposition that
> everything should be built in already, the machine should be able to resolve
> tasks from day 1 - just like in AI. That's like expecting a new born baby to
> talk about political issues! It's easy to forget that the database we have
> in our brains, upon which we make decisions, selections, creations, and so
> on.. is incredibly large.. in fact it took a life-time to assembe.
>

Hi Valentina,

I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but to be on the safe side, did
you internalize warnings given in e.g. (
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/07/detached-lever.html ), ( Drew
McDermott's "Artificial Intelligence Meets Natural Stupidity" ), (
http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/11/artificial-addi.html )? I tried
to describe the physical origins of this disconnect between the
shallowness of properties and tags we use to reason about real-world
objects and exquisite level of detail in objects themselves in (
http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/2008/07/06/rules-of-thumb/ ), (
http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/flow-of-reality/ ), (
http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/precise-answers/ ).

My argument wasn't about word-matching per se, but about the
high-level characterization of the process of
reasoning/perception/recall/problem-solving. You can't paint a word
"Intelligence" in big letters and expect it to start doing intelligent
things.

-- 
Vladimir Nesov
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/


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