Hi, Here are a couple random responses to suggestions by others within this thread...
Nesov wrote, and Mark Waser concurred: " I don't notice rudeness so much, but content-free posts (and posters who don't learn) are a problem on this list. Low signal-to-noise ratio. I'd say you are too tolerant in avoiding moderation, but moderation is needed for content, not just "politeness". " My response is that -- Moderation for politeness, and for *form* of posts, is fairly easy to do in an objective way -- Moderation for content is a lot more subjective, and I don't want to be perceived as imposing my own particular views on AGI on this mailing list. So I'm a bit wary of this. Hector suggested " What about also some minimal credentials (not necessarily academical achievements but a minimal proof of knowledge and logical thought) as it is required at other mailing lists... " However, it seems to me that the most boring, repetitive and irritating conversations on this list generally involve individuals who *do* have "above minimal credentials" in AGI. The only exception I can think of would be some of the repetitive conversations involving Mike Tintner, who isn't professionally experienced in AGI or directly related fields of science so far as I know (though I could be wrong) I do think that this list has recently become dominated by long, somewhat repetitive arguments between a relatively small number of people. I myself have stopped reading or posting very much partly because of this, even though I'm the list administrator... Ben On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't notice rudeness so much, but content-free posts (and posters >> who don't learn) are a problem on this list. Low signal-to-noise >> ratio. I'd say you are too tolerant in avoiding moderation, but >> moderation is needed for content, not just "politeness". >> > > Normally I try to avoid "me too" posts -- but for those who felt my last > e-mail was too long, this is the essence of my argument (and very well > expressed). > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vladimir Nesov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: [agi] META: do we need a stronger "politeness code" on this > list? > > > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> I think Ed's email was a bit harsh, but not as harsh as many of Richard's >>> (which are frequently full of language like "fools", "rubbish" and so >>> forth >>> ...). >>> >>> Some of your emails have been pretty harsh in the past too. >>> >>> I would be willing to enforce a stronger code of politeness on this list >>> if >>> that is what the membership wants. I have been told before, in other >>> contexts, that I tend to be overly tolerant of rude behavior. >>> >>> Anyone else have an opinion on this? >>> >>> >> I don't notice rudeness so much, but content-free posts (and posters >> who don't learn) are a problem on this list. Low signal-to-noise >> ratio. I'd say you are too tolerant in avoiding moderation, but >> moderation is needed for content, not just "politeness". >> >> -- >> Vladimir Nesov >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=108809214-a0d121 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
