On 8/9/2008 12:43 AM, Brad Paulsen wrote:
 Mike Tintner wrote:
> That illusion is partly the price of using language, which
> fragments into pieces what is actually a continuous common sense,
> integrated response to the world.

 Excellent observation.  I've said it many times before: language is
 analog human experience digitized.  And every time I do, people look
 at me funny.

I dunno about that. When I walk into my dining room, I don't see a continuous experience, I see a table and chairs and plates, etc. I clump the world into objects that have discrete boundaries. Isn't that digitization in the sense you mean?

I think of language more as serializing something that's parallel internally, and saving communications bandwidth by supplying enough information to uniquely identify an already known concept rather than fully describing it -- part of which is the use of symbols.

As a side note: There's some evidence that dolphins communicate by making sounds that imitate what their sonar would return. It's somewhat equivalent to me being able to wave my hands and make an image appear in the air. Thus there's no need for symbols, because they can reproduce the sensory input of the original object. If it had been easier to do the same thing in our sensory environment (vision rather than sonar), we might never have evolved symbolic language and all that led to.



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