On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Terren Suydam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Came across this article called "Pencils and Politics". Though a bit of a > tangent, it's the clearest explanation of self-organization in economics I've > encountered. > > http://www.newsweek.com/id/158752 > > I send this along because it's a great example of how systems that > self-organize can result in structures and dynamics that are more complex > and efficient than anything we can purposefully design. The applicability to > the realm of designed intelligence is obvious. >
We do design these systems. Even if there is no "top manager" of the design and production process, even if nobody holds the whole process in one mind, it is a result of application of optimization pressure of individual people. I don't see how ability to create economically driven processes fundamentally differs from complicated engineering projects like putting a man on the moon of a Boeing. People can organize processes more powerful than individual humans, and there are limitations to how far you can improve individual performance, where you can run things in parallel and iterate over accumulated results. Applicability to designing intelligence is nontrivial (do you mean the process of designing an intelligence or the workings of designed intelligence?). We don't have a reliable process that takes us closer and closer to having AI design, apart from usual science. You can't create an intelligent process from using known economic processes on stupid agents -- it might be a good direction to research what economy-like processes will result in powerful optimization, but it's not like currently known economic processes obviously lead to that (maybe they obviously don't to someone more familiar with the field). You can't take an algorithm currently fueled by intelligence (human economy), take intelligence out of it and hope that there will be enough traces of intelligence essence left to do the work regardless. -- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://causalityrelay.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=114414975-3c8e69 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
