Terren:  I send this along because it's a great example of how systems that
self-organize can result in structures and dynamics that are more complex
and efficient than anything we can purposefully design. The applicability to
the realm of designed intelligence is obvious.


Vlad: . Even if there is no "top manager" of the
design and production process, even if nobody holds the whole process
in one mind, it is a result of application of optimization pressure of
individual people. I don't see how ability to create economically
driven processes fundamentally differs from complicated engineering
projects like putting a man on the moon of a Boeing.


The difficulty here - no? - is that we really don't as a culture have the appropriate "life" paradigm yet to think about all this.

For instance, self-organization for living organisms, seems inevitably to entail:

1) a self,  which is

2) an integrated brain-body unit, (has "organic integrity")

All our machines are basically separate parts yoked together to fit the external plan of a designer. They don't have a self, or any real integrity.

I suspect we are going to have to wait for the first artificial organisms to really start to understand the differences between living organisms and dead machines.

This v. much affects intelligence. In human brains, thinking is very much a self-directed process, and that is essential to deal with the kinds of problems that characterise GI.



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