Vlad,

At this point, we ought to acknowledge that we just have different approaches. 
You're trying to hit a very small target accurately and precisely. I'm not. 
It's not important to me the precise details of how a self-organizing system 
would actually self-organize, what form that would take or what goals would 
emerge for that system beyond persistence/replication. We've already gone over 
the Friendliness debate so I won't go any further with that here.

My approach is to try and recreate the processes that led to the emergence of 
life, and of intelligence. I see life and intelligence as strongly 
interrelated, yet I don't see either as dependent on our particular biological 
substrate. Life I define as a self-organizing process that does work (expends 
energy) to maintain its self-organization (which is to say it maintains a 
boundary between itself and the environment, in which the entropy inside is 
lower than the entropy outside). Life at the simplest possible level is 
therefore a kind of hard-coded intelligence. My hunch is that anything 
sufficiently advanced to be considered generally intelligent needs to be alive 
in the above sense. But suffice it to say, pursuit of AGI is not in my short 
term plans.

Just as an aside, because sometimes this feels combative, or overly defensive: 
I have not come on to this list to try and persuade anyone to adopt my 
approach, or to dissuade others from theirs. Rather, I came here to gather 
feedback and criticism of my thoughts, to defend them when challenged, and to 
change my mind when it seems like my current ideas are inadequate. And of 
course, to provide the same kind of feedback for others when I have something 
to contribute. In that spirit, I'm grateful for your feedback. I'm also very 
curious to see the results of your approach, and those of others here... I may 
be critical of what you're trying to do, but that doesn't mean I think you 
shouldn't do it (in most cases anyway :-] ).

Terren



      


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