Ben,

Some questions then.

You don't have any spaces or frames as such within your systems? (what terms 
would you use/prefer here BTW?)  Everything is potentially connected to 
everything else?  Perhaps you can give some example from say your 
pet-in-a-virtual-world (or anything else). It doesn't have a frame say re 
"fetching", or some other activity? How can it connect, as you can connect on 
the Web, from say the domain of fetching and balls to any other domain ? Like 
hide-and-seek? Or conversation? (Or, on the Web itself, to planets in a solar 
system).

It won't have ordered hierarchies, say, re "animals" ("...mammals...humans" etc?

Another feature of the webs vs nets distinction. Webs it seems to me are 
*multi-domain* of their very nature. .( A domain, for me, consists of a set of 
elements which behave according to consistent rules - e.g. chess pieces which 
move in set ways on a board).So webs are composed of diverse and often 
contradictory domains and rules. Your sex web, for example, will have a whole 
variety of domains, religious, literary, different moralities, etiquette, 
fashion, pornographic, fantasy etc offering contradictory rules about whom you 
can and can't have sex with, and how, and when - and for what reasons Ditto our 
language webs consist of radically conflicting rules about how we can and can't 
speak, construct sentences, use words, spell, mix different conventions, 
accents, tones etc. etc. Do your spaces/domains exist similarly with 
conflicting rules? You don't need to keep updating them for consistency? Your 
system can, for example, survive with conflicting rules of logic - Nars-ian and 
PLN - as your own brain can?

I suspect IOW there *are* important distinctions to be drawn & explored here. 
And my first attempt here may be rather like my first attempt at defining 
programs a long time ago, which failed to distinguish between sequences and 
structures of instructions - and was then pounced on by AI-ers.




  On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    As I understand the way you guys and AI generally work, you create 
well-organized spaces which your programs can systematically search for 
options. Let's call them "nets" - which have systematic, well-defined and 
orderly-laid-out connections between nodes.

  That is simply incorrect ... the connections between 
nodes/terms/concepts/whatever are chaotic and self-organized and disorderly, 
within OpenCogPrime, NARS, or any of a load of other AGI systems.

  And then you have some cognitive processes that try to build order out of the 
chaos and create links imposing some fragmentary order ... which won't last 
long unless actively maintained [roughly: as some folks build directories of 
parts of the Web...]

  There is a large body of study of the connection statistics of large 
networks, and some (but less) study of the dynamics of connection stats in 
large networks.

  -- Ben G





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