Mike,

I can totally understand Ben's frustration and boredom with your posts. You're 
somehow an expert on general intelligence, yet you refuse to eradicate your own 
ignorance about some of the most basic technical concepts. What are you doing 
on a mailing list about artificial general intelligence if you can't relate to 
the technical concepts that are necessary to discuss its feasibility and/or 
implementation?  

Your enthusiasm is great, but until you gain some competency in technical 
areas, you aren't much more than a troll, on this list. You really are the 
embodiment of Eliezer Yudkowsky's point about people who can't see beyond their 
own level of intelligence. Your repeated accusations of ignorance against Ben 
bear that out. Maybe his approach will work and maybe it won't, but it ought to 
be obvious that this is a guy who does his homework. He has not only thought 
about creativity (one of the axes you endlessly grind), he has written a book 
about it, which in all likelihood you have not and will not read.

So maybe you should stop posting until you can demonstrate a grasp of technical 
concepts. I think that would be a reasonable requirement to make of those who 
would post here, to demonstrate some competency in basic computer science 
concepts.  That kind of rule is in force in other technical groups I 
participate in.

Terren

--- On Tue, 11/4/08, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [agi] Re: [redwood] ICBS Seminar: -PS
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 10:47 AM



 
 

 
Ben,

According to the known laws of physics, analog computers cannot compute 
anything different than what digital computers can...
if by "compute" you 
mean "produce results observable by finite-precision instruments like human 
eyes 
and ears"
 
Ben,
 
There is one other question here. Don't digital computers always add 
another layer? A line, say, always has to be translated into something else, 
like geometric formulae, in order for a digital computer to handle it, no?  
All information has to be coded and decoded, no?
 
I, as you/ve probably gathered, want a machine that can handle the line as 
a line, directly. A map as a map.No code. 
 
There is nothing comparable to the brain's maps in the physical layout of 
current computers, is there? Could there be? (Neural networks aren't quite the 
same, are they)?
 

 



  
    
      
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