> From: Richard Loosemore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > John LaMuth wrote: > > Reality check *** > > > > Consciousness is an emergent spectrum of subjectivity spanning 600 > mill. > > years of > > evolution involving mega-trillions of competing organisms, probably > > selecting > > for obscure quantum effects/efficiencies.... > > > > Our puny engineering/coding efforts could never approach this - not > even > > in a million years. > > > > An outwardly pragmatic language simulation, however, is very do-able. > > > > John LaMuth > > It is not. > > And we can. >
I thought what he said was a good description more or less. Out of 600 millions years there may be only a fraction of that which is an improvement but it's still there. How do you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that any other being is conscious? At some point you have to trust that others are conscious, in the same species, you bring them into your recursive "loop" of consciousness component mix. A primary component of consciousness is a self definition. Conscious experience is unique to the possessor. It is more than a belief that the possessor herself is conscious but others who appear conscious may be just that, appearing to be conscious. Though at some point there is enough feedback between individuals and/or a group to share consciousness experience. Still though, is it really necessary for an AGI to be conscious? Except for delivering warm fuzzies to the creators? Doesn't that complicate things? Shouldn't the machines/computers be slaves to man? Or will they be equal/superior. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there. I just want things to be taken care of and no issues. Consciousness brings issues. Intelligence and consciousness are separate. John ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
