--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> No it won't, because people are free to decide what makes pain "real".
> 
> What?  You've got to be kidding . . . .  What makes
> pain real is how the sufferer reacts to it -- not some
> abstract wishful thinking that we use to justify our
> decisions of how we wish to behave.

Autobliss responds to pain by changing its behavior to make it less likely. 
Please explain how this is different from human suffering. And don't tell me 
its because one is human and the other is a simple program, because...

> >> Do you think that the addition of intelligent
> robots will make the boundary between human and non-human
> any sharper?
> 
> No, I think that it will make it much fuzzier . . . . but
> since the boundary is just a strawman for lazy thinkers,
> removing it will actually make our ethics much sharper.

So either pain is real to both, or to neither, or there is some other criteria 
which you haven't specified, in which case I would like to know what that is.

-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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