Which is the summary and which is the main though?
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Gaelan Steele <g...@canishe.com> wrote:
> The list of changes may be a summary that is ignored ("if such a document
> can be divided into a summary section and a main section, where the only
> purpose of the summary section is to summarize information in the main
> section, and the main section is internally consistent, ratification of the
> document proceeds as if it contained only the main section”).
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny errors are
> > enough to stop it.
> >
> > To further support this, I believe scams rely precisely on a pedantic
> > reading of the rules and content, to have your "scam content" be
> impervious
> > to it would be special pleading.
> >
> > To support Tel's Ribbon, we DO have this:
> >
> > 2018-02-12 Telnaior +K (self-ratification)
> >
> >
> > Which is dated at 2018. So, while this IS a "clairvoyant" report because
> it
> > was dated at 2017, that ribbon at that date is still ratified.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> When you ratify a report that includes a specific "this is the
> >> date this report is for", my understanding is that this modifies
> >> the values for that date. Just like my recent attempt to ratify
> >> "On (date) there were no elections".
> >>
> >> In this case, you would have ratified everyone's ribbon holdings
> >> for a year ago. However, we have reports from the fall that
> >> ratified in late 2017, that state at a later date you didn't have the
> >> ribbons. So I think your attempt failed...perhaps? That now the
> >> legal historical record is that those were the ribbon holdings
> >> from early 2017 until the next actual report ratified last year.
> >>
> >> Remember, we apply very strict scrutiny to scams and tiny
> >> errors are enough to stop it.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> >>> The date is still off, though---it happened one week after the previous
> >>> report.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 at 19:19, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Oh shit, true. Well, OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant <
> >>>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It was in eir previous report.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Aris
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:15 PM Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> CoE:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2018-02-12 Telnaior +K (self-ratification)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You haven't earned it YET, self-ratification is after its undoubted
> >>>> for a
> >>>>>> week, as per R2201.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 1:06 AM, Telnaior <j...@iinet.net.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> TAILOR'S RIBBON REPORT
> >>>>>>> ----------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Date of this report: 2017-02-12
> >>>>>>> Date of last report: 2017-01-31
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Festivity: 0
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>>>>>> Alexis ROGCBMUVIP WKA
> >>>>>>> Aris R MUV P
> >>>>>>> Corona
> >>>>>>> Cuddle Beam C M V W
> >>>>>>> G. ROGCBMUVIPLW AT
> >>>>>>> Gaelan C MUV A
> >>>>>>> Murphy CB UV A
> >>>>>>> nichdel OGCBMUV P W AT
> >>>>>>> o ROG BMUV W AT
> >>>>>>> omd C UV KA
> >>>>>>> pokes
> >>>>>>> Publius [1] C MUV
> >>>>>>> Quazie O C MUV KA
> >>>>>>> Telnaior KA
> >>>>>>> Trigon
> >>>>>>> Josh T. [3] UV A
> >>>>>>> V.J. Rada MU LW
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Non-players' ribbon holdings:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ROGCBMUVIPLWKAT
> >>>>>>> ais523 ROGCBMUV PLWKAT
> >>>>>>> aranea ROGCBM V PLW A
> >>>>>>> ATMunn A
> >>>>>>> babelian U
> >>>>>>> Bayushi MU
> >>>>>>> Bede M W
> >>>>>>> Chuck M
> >>>>>>> grok O BMUV
> >>>>>>> Ienpw III UV
> >>>>>>> K W
> >>>>>>> Ørjan M V
> >>>>>>> Roujo V
> >>>>>>> Sprocklem MUV W A
> >>>>>>> stadjer W
> >>>>>>> Tanner Swett C M
> >>>>>>> Tekneek M
> >>>>>>> Tiger BM
> >>>>>>> tmanthe2nd UV
> >>>>>>> Veggiekeks C UV
> >>>>>>> Yally M
> >>>>>>> Zachary W [2] U
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>>>>>> [2] Zachary Watterson
> >>>>>>> [3] 天火狐
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The rules for Ribbons are set out in rule 2438. A quick guide to
> >> how
> >>>>>>> most Ribbons work: various events cause you to "earn" a Ribbon;
> >> you
> >>>>>>> then "qualify for" that Ribbon for 7 days. While you qualify for
> >> a
> >>>>>>> Ribbon (and do not already own that Ribbon, and have not owned it
> >>>>>>> recently), any player can "award" you that Ribbon. A few Ribbons
> >>>>>>> work differently; see rule 2438 for details.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Approximate summary of how each type of Ribbon can be gained:
> >>>>>>> Red Author an adopted proposal that amends a Power-3+
> >> rule
> >>>>>>> Orange Author a proposal that is unanimously adopted
> >>>>>>> Green Hold an elected office for 30 days with no late
> >> duties
> >>>>>>> Cyan Deputise for an office
> >>>>>>> Blue Judge a CFJ without violating time limits to do so
> >>>>>>> Magenta Acknowldge Agora's Birthday
> >>>>>>> Ultraviolet Become Champion (typically by winning the game)
> >>>>>>> Violet Gain a Patent Title (except Champion, degrees)
> >>>>>>> Indigo Gain a degree
> >>>>>>> Platinum Become the Speaker
> >>>>>>> Lime Coauthor three adopted proposals within 7 days
> >>>>>>> White Never have had a White Ribbon, or be gifted one by
> >>>> someone
> >>>>>>> who has never gifted a White Ribbon
> >>>>>>> blacK Awardable only by proposal or scam
> >>>>>>> GrAy Awarded monthly at the Tailor's discretion
> >>>>>>> Transparent Qualify for 5 Ribbons in the same week (ones you
> >> already
> >>>>>>> have count)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> History of Ribbon holdings:
> >>>>>>> 2014-11-04 aranea +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2014-11-04 aranea +C (deputising for Tailor)
> >>>>>>> 2014-11-06 Sprocklem +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2014-11-09 omd +C (deputising for King Azaz)
> >>>>>>> 2014-11-14 Alexis +C (deputising for Herald)
> >>>>>>> 2015-01-07 G. +C (deputising for Referee)
> >>>>>>> 2015-04-17 stadjer +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 aranea +R (Proposal 7736)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 aranea +O (Proposal 7735)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 aranea +L (Proposal 7735-37)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 G. +R (Proposal 7734)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 G. +O (Proposal 7738)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 G. +L (Proposal 7734,38,39)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-01 G. +P (appointed Speaker)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-12 ais523 +O (Proposal 7742)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-12 Alexis +P (appointed Speaker)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-13 Alexis +G (as Tailor)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-22 G. +B (CFJ 3448)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-23 Alexis +B (CFJ 3447)
> >>>>>>> 2015-05-24 G. +W (gifted by aranea)
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-09 ais523 +G (as Prime Minister)
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 Alexis +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 aranea +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 ais523 +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 the Warrigal +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 Sprocklem +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 Tiger +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 G. +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-29 Bede +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-30 Gaelan +M
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-30 aranea +A
> >>>>>>> 2015-06-30 Alexis +O (Proposal 7753)
> >>>>>>> 2015-07-10 G. +G (as Arbitor)
> >>>>>>> 2015-07-12 aranea +V ("Unchampion")
> >>>>>>> 2015-07-26 Alexis +A
> >>>>>>> 2015-07-28 aranea +B (CFJ 3449)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-03 ais523 +V ("Silver Quill 2015/07")
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-10 Tiger +B (CFJ 3451)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-11 omd +K (by Proposal 7784)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-11 ais523 +K (by Proposal 7784)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-11 Alexis +K (by Proposal 7784)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-11 Alexis +R (Proposal 7772)
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-11 Alexis +P
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-17 omd +A
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-21 ais523 +U
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-21 omd +U
> >>>>>>> 2015-08-21 Alexis +U
> >>>>>>> 2015-09-30 Gaelan +A
> >>>>>>> 2015-10-08 Bede +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2015-10-21 G. +A
> >>>>>>> 2015-11-27 Murphy +C (deputising for Secretary)
> >>>>>>> 2015-11-28 ais523 +P
> >>>>>>> 2015-11-29 Murphy +A
> >>>>>>> 2016-02-21 Sprocklem +A
> >>>>>>> 2016-06-26 nichdel +C (deputising for Registrar)
> >>>>>>> 2016-06-30 Tekneek +M
> >>>>>>> 2016-06-30 nichdel +M
> >>>>>>> 2016-07-14 nichdel +A
> >>>>>>> 2016-08-01 omd +V ("Distributor")
> >>>>>>> 2016-08-20 ais523 +A
> >>>>>>> 2016-10-13 Alexis +C (deputising for Referee)
> >>>>>>> 2016-10-13 Alexis +A
> >>>>>>> 2016-11-10 Alexis +V ("Princess of Agora", via
> >>>> dictatorship)
> >>>>>>> 2017-03-26 Tanner Swett +C (deputising for ADoP)
> >>>>>>> 2017-04-18 Quazie +C (deputising for Superintendent)
> >>>>>>> 2017-04-18 Publius [1] +C (deputising for Registrar)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +O (proposal 7846)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +G (as Secretary)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +B (CFJ 3485)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +T (+OGBWR)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-10 o +R (proposal 7846)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-18 ais523 +C (deputising for Tailor)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-18 o +A
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +G (as Assessor)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +B (CFJ 3499)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +U
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +P
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +W (new to Ribbons)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-21 nichdel +T (+GBUPW)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-22 ais523 +B (CFJ 3504)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-22 ais523 +T (+OBUVC)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-23 grok +B (CFJ 3507)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-24 nichdel +O (proposal 7852)
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 tmanthe2nd +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 G. +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 CuddleBeam +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Ienpw III +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 nichdel +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 o +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Ørjan +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Aris +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Murphy +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Quazie +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Publius [1] +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Sprocklem +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Veggiekeks +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Roujo +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 Gaelan +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 [2] +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-05-25 grok +V ("Badge of the Great Agoran
> >> Revival")
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-02 G. +I
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-05 ais523 +R (proposal 7853)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-05 Quazie +O (proposal 7855)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-05 grok +O (proposal 7857)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-10 Veggikeks +C (deputising for Reportor)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-10 Murphy +B (CFJ 3522)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-24 ais523 +W (status of ambiguous Ribbon
> >>>> determined)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-24 Alexis +W (status of ambiguous Ribbon
> >>>> determined)
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-28 Quazie +K
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Quazie +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 CuddleBeam +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Publius [1] +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Chuck +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Yally +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 grok +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Aris +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-29 Bayushi +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-30 o +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-30 V.J. Rada +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-06-30 Ørjan +M
> >>>>>>> 2017-07-04 CuddleBeam +W
> >>>>>>> 2017-07-06 o +A
> >>>>>>> 2017-08-23 K +W
> >>>>>>> 2017-08-24 Quazie +A
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Aris +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 babelian +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Bayushi +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Gaelan +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 grok +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Ienpw III +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Murphy +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 o +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Publius +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Quazie +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Sprocklem +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 tmanthe2nd +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 V.J. Rada +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Veggiekeks +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Zachary W [2] +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 Josh T. [3] +U (Apathy)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-06 V.J. Rada +W (never owned before)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-13 Quazie +P
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-26 ais523 +L (proposals 7881, 7882, 7886)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-26 V.J. Rada +L (proposals 7881, 7885, 7888)
> >>>>>>> 2017-09-29 Aris +R (proposal 7889)
> >>>>>>> 2017-10-03 G. +T (U [Apathy], P, O [proposal 7899],
> >>>>>>> C [Assessor], B [CFJ 3567])
> >>>>>>> 2017-10-09 G. -T (ratification of an incorrect ADoP
> >>>>> report)
> >>>>>>> 2017-10-23 G. +T (by proposal 7922)
> >>>>>>> 2017-10-28 ATMunn +A
> >>>>>>> 2017-11-02 Alexis +I (self-ratification)
> >>>>>>> 2017-11-02 Alexis +G (self-ratification)
> >>>>>>> 2017-11-29 Josh T. [3] +A
> >>>>>>> ----- time of last report -----
> >>>>>>> 2017-12-11 Telnaior +A
> >>>>>>> 2018-02-04 Cuddle Beam +C
> >>>>>>> 2018-02-05 Aris +P
> >>>>>>> 2018-02-12 Telnaior +K (self-ratification)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
