Trigon might want to but any late thematic changes now to their dynasty would heavily rely on the current players to pass, and I suspect that a sudden Agora takeover would be met with more snickering than we can deal with and would fail.
There’s a lot more social power and percieved legitimacy in an Ascencion Adress and instating an Agora theme that way. Heck, its how anyone imposes the theme they want. It’s how things are supposed to be. It’s how we can put an Agora theme without needing to resort to play Palpatine or twist moustaches deviously. Just winning the game as usual! On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 14:51, Timon Walshe-Grey <m...@timon.red> wrote: > Trigon is the current Emperor of BlogNomic, so depending on how > corruptible e is we may have an in... > > More seriously, the office of "Ambassador" (to other nomics) that > apparently used to be a thing is mildly interesting: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg06285.html > > (repealed here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg07140.html) > > -twg > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Sunday, February 17, 2019 7:20 AM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > It would’ve been pretty easy to win last dynasty with a coordinated team > > (wealth was pretty unambiguous from the start in the form of Clues: > > Emperor-given info on a series of data a la Cluedo; wealth could be easy > > shared because you just needed to know it. Unsurprisingly, a team of two > > players won.) > > > > This dynasty isnt as obvious unfortunately but a teaming up/planning to > > pool into a single person is very often super strong anyways. > > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 07:45, Gaelan Steele g...@canishe.com wrote: > > > > > Consider me interested. > > > Gaelan > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Cuddle Beam cuddleb...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > We could just win it in the normal way next time and declare an Agora > > > > theme... > > > > On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 01:32, Ørjan Johansen oer...@nvg.ntnu.no > wrote: > > > > > > > > > My reading justifies the Agoran invasion better. > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > Ørjan. > > > > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2019, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I rather hoped the “mutatis mutandis” was implied. > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 4:27 PM Ørjan Johansen > oer...@nvg.ntnu.no > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BlogNomic almost actually passed something like that once. > We sent > > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > over to caution them that such an unfortunate plan would > result in an > > > > > > > > Agoran invasion (okay, ais actually did it sua sponte, but > my version > > > > > > > > sounds better). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wait, BlogNomic legislated that Agora would be destroyed? I > don't > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > > > that works. > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > Ørjan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 2:56 PM Madeline j...@iinet.net.au > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, I'm just talking in hypotheticals. > > > > > > > > > On 2019-02-16 09:55, Aris Merchant wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No one is doing anything that has any meaningful chance > of > > > > > > > > > > destroying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agora. If there’s a bug in your mechanism, the stakes go > from it > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > broken to the game dying permanently. > > > > > > > > > > -Aris > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 2:52 PM Madeline > j...@iinet.net.au > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If this Rule's power exceeds 4.0, then all other rules > > > > > > > > > > > notwithstanding, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agora is destroyed." > > > > > > > > > > > (Would any other rule need to actually change for such > a clause to > > > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if an outside Power 3 rule is adjusting its power?) > > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-02-16 09:47, D. Margaux wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love it. > > > > > > > > > > > > You could have a separate power 3 rule that (1) > changes the power > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ritual rule and (2) causes itself to be repealed when > the Ritual > > > > > > > > > > > rule > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repealed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I’d love to see the power of the Ritual rule > increase, too, > > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rule is left unappeased... and maybe increase at a > higher rate > > > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be decreased? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Kerim Aydin > ke...@uw.edu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I've been pondering something even > fancier, like every > > > > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's appeased it decreases in Power and the Power > is linked to > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Consent required. Or something. (of course you > can't increase > > > > > > > > > > > > > power > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the same way). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 2:08 PM D. Margaux < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dmargaux...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any chance we can have it repeal with Agoran > Consent or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > than notice? Or is that excessive? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Kerim Aydin > ke...@uw.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, one more time. Empty sacrifices are > meaningless. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I withdraw my proposal, The Ritual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I submit the following proposal, Ritual > Sacrifice, AI-1: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Create a Rule entitled "The Ritual", > Power-0.5, with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any player CAN perform The Ritual by > paying a fee of 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Coins, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thus appeasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Rule for a single instant. This Rule MUST > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeased > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in every Agoran week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this rule has been appeased by The > Ritual in 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agoran weeks, then any player CAN banish > this rule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (cause > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeal itself) with Notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:12 PM Kerim Aydin > ke...@uw.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I withdraw the proposal I recently > submitted, quoted below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I submit the following Proposal, The Ritual, > AI-1: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Create a Rule entitled "The Ritual", > Power-0.5, with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any player CAN perform The Ritual by > announcement, thus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeasing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Rule for a single instant. This > Rule MUST be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appeased > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > least once > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in every Agoran week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this rule has been appeased by The > Ritual in 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agoran weeks, then any player CAN > banish this rule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (cause > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeal itself) with Notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:44 AM Kerim > Aydin ke...@uw.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I submit the following Proposal, The > Ritual, AI-1: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Create a Rule entitled "The Ritual", > Power-0.5, with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > text: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any player CAN perform The Ritual by > announcement. In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > order > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appease this Rule, at least one > player MUST perform > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ritual in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every Agoran week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If this rule has been appeased by > The Ritual in 5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > successive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agoran weeks, then any player CAN > banish this rule > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (cause > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > repeal itself) with Notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
