>getting to 3 when starting <3 cute, I <3 you too. Anyways, I was thinking about the Greed Relic and how to make it way less vulnerable to dishonesty. Instead of attending to the result of a scam's method (someone reporting that a non-consensual event happened) , we could just look at the method itself instead (someone points how the scam itself works or after it happens, we looks at how it as achieved instead of people's report of its consensuality).
I think the key idea is that it's a non-consensual method to perform something onto someone that already has a consensual method, a "backdoor". And since the Ruleset tends to not be redundant, if you have both a con and a non-con method, the non-con method is likely a scam. Maybe this bites me in the ass because it's not a perfect test and the inverse still works too (it's supposed to be non-con but then someone finds a con method), but it's the best method I could ad lib of for a "mechanical" way to detect a scam without needing to resort to more subjective considerations like judging its scamness or something. And maybe it's actually just fine like this and both the straight and inverse versions are good and fun to have anyways as the same Relic. Greed might not be the ideal metaphor then, so I changed it to Wrath, because bypassing consent sounds impulsive and violent. Arguably it could've been Lust too but, eh, might be way too dark so I won't get into that. I like Pride for Escalation, gaining Power seems like puffing out your chest, it's cool. Thanks for telling me what it was, history's cool, I appreciate it. Going to use Gluttony instead of Cincinnatus because it's just easier to remember and type off the top of my head and it's more on the theme of cardinal sins and having amassed all that power feels obese. There's also the issue that once you have that kind of omnipotence, if Relics even "matter" anymore. You could just self-assign to yourself all of the Relics you want anyways. Or wins, for that matter. It's weird. But so are scams! So I'll add it anyways for the Fun of it, what is Agora without Fun anyways. PROTO: ---*--- - Wrath Relic: When a person performs a regulated action upon another person without their Consent, while they are able to perform a different regulated action that requires that person's Consent to perform the same effect, you earn a Wrath Relic. - Pride: I don't know how Instruments work lmao, I should read it up in order to write this (yes I know Read the Ruleset Week was a while ago, I didn't read the whole ruleset...) - Gluttony: When a single person, without aid of the action of other persons, can change the content of a Power-3 rule, they earn a Gluttony Relic. ---*--- Also, ty G. for the alternative rulemasonry for the first parts of this. I'll go with that. I'll call them Ribbons (not "Ordinary", just plain Ribbons) and Relics and both are Decorations. On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:56 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@uw.edu> wrote: > > Well I did think about noting you could have as many relic levels as you > wanted, but I figured the mark "escalation" scam worth a Relic would be > just "getting to 3 when starting <3". In terms of "levels of victory" I > kinda feel like there's "some power" versus "complete power", not a huge > amount of point in distinguishing sub-steps IMO, but maybe there is. > > On 2/19/2019 7:46 AM, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-02-19 at 07:39 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> I'm not sure if you'd have a different relic for all 3 steps (power- > >> 1, power-3, and power-1 to power-3), that might be a bit much, but > >> distinguishing different dictatorship levels gives you some options. > > > > I'm vaguely amused that you omitted power-2 (and other intermediate > > powers) entirely. > > > > (Back in the period where there were a lot of voting shenanigans > > meaning that power-1 forcethroughs were more common, escalators had a > > lot more usage, but were nearly always 1-to-3. I remember that I and a > > few other scamsters looked for 2-to-3 escalators and decided that they > > were trivial under the ruleset at the time, whereas 1-to-3 escalators > > were very hard to find and frequently got fixed.) > > >
