From: "Fraser Levey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Try the RANZCR Imaging Guidelines book, the UK's College of Radiologists do=
es a similar book as well, both contain useful information on what is viewe=
d by radiologists as clinically relevant.
I strongly recommend the use of the RANZCR Imaging Guidelines though.
Fraser.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/03 11:41am >>>
From: "Izan Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'd be very interested to see the rationale for supine only. I get=20
rather a lot of=20
"routine" erect/ supine AXRs with CXR and would like some way of=20
cutting back,with=20
literature (not necessarily from textbooks) to back this up. I've heard=20
this viewpoint=20
before.

For shaky/ frail patients I used always sit them with their back to the=20
erect bucky,=20
(provided they could sit up that is) and do an erect film that way.=20
The thighs did tend=20
to get in the way a little, but it worked well. However, where I work=20
now, the tube=20
does not come low enough to do that. So it's either risk standing the=20
patient up or a=20
decubitus.

Izan GiIl

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/02/03 04:48pm >>>
From: "Rita Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Very valid point about the radiation dose with the extra erect abdo=20
film.

Does that mean therefore that most places do only a supine film=20
and AP chest
in the bed?


Rita

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Levey
Sent: Friday, 31 January 03 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [AIRNEWS] Risk Management

From: "Fraser Levey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Interesting point from a radiation safety perspective too. Many UK=20
hospitals
do not routinely perform Erect Abdomens as they are seen as=20
clinically irrelevant.
Most pathology demonstrated is either clinically obvious or=20
radiologically=20
ambiguous.

The elimination of such examinations would reduce a patients skin=20
entrance
dose by about 3.5 mGy, which is a fair old amount, which equates=20
to about 35 PA
chest exposures worth of radiation.

This, combined with the far greater risk of patients keeling over,=20
would
make me wish to  ensure that the referral is justified before=20
exposing patients.

Fraser.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/31/03 09:33am >>>
From: "Garry Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

do you really need an erect abdo at all. we have one radiologist that
insists we do not. Is it then possible to eliminate this exam and thus
the risk (we haven't been able to eliminate due to referral base and
other radiologists non acceptance)



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