Can also be a lack of lubrication on bendix shaft, and/or groove worn into
solenoid shaft.
This just happened on one of my cars (non Alfa), and I filed the ridge and
sanded the solenoid, and reassembled w/ moly grease. It was a semi recent
reman. with new contacts, but not enough attention to detail..


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
Shorey
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:54 PM
To: Ralph Moorhouse; Will Owen
Cc: alfa
Subject: Re: [alfa] Re: strange Milano behavior

My money is still on the ignition switch.

The solenoid can certainly cause the 'starter won't stop turning' problem, but
it has nothing to do with the engine refusing to run.  The ignition switch can
cause both.

Could also be the dual relay..

Keep us posted!

bs




________________________________
From: Ralph Moorhouse <[email protected]>
To: Will Owen <[email protected]>
Cc: alfa <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:47:26 PM
Subject: [alfa] Re: strange Milano behavior

All:

First - thanks for all advice.  Ignition switch, double relay & starter
solenoid were 'key' concerns.  I had our local mechanic come over to check
out the situation.  Battery good, turn on key, starter spins until
disconnected at battery - exactly what I experienced.  So I left Mike to do
his magic while I got back to work.   So it being an Alfa, as soon as I get
out of sight, it starts right up!!!

We are not a 100% sure why, other than repeated start attempts may have
removed surface rust(?) on solenoid.  Probably not ignition switch since it
doesn't see high voltage (has relay before starter). I think Replacing
solenoid is planned after I get it inspected (several months overdue).

Again thanks for advice - no clear resolution BUT it starts & runs!!!!!

Ralph


On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Will Owen <[email protected]>wrote:

> Ralph -
>
> Any kind of bizarre behavior such as this on the part of a Milano is almost
> certainly the fault of the ignition switch. Dreadful design, doomed to fail
> at some point - I'm on my fourth one since 1997, or possibly fifth, hard to
> keep count. The commonest symptom (in my experience) is when the engine
> quits and all the dashboard indicators go dead, then they come back on when
> the key is turned to the OFF position, but your symptoms could easily be
> just a version of that.
>
> Will
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