Oh yeah how ya getting on with Silicondust? How accessible is it? I've heard of their tuners and stuff.

On 10/8/2018 2:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes, the discontinuation of Windows Media Center meant I had to tackle problems 
from different angles, think along different lines and take different 
approaches.
With Windows Media Center I was able to use TV Tuners plugged in or connected 
to the PC to record FTA and Cable tV.
Through Windows Media Center I was able to access TV guides and automatically 
schedule what I wanted to record, a very fancy and slick video recording system 
without a doubt.
So my upgrade to Windows 10 meant to a loss of Windows Media Center as you say 
but I found very good alternatives.
I use a Fetch TV set Top Box for the recording of Television programmes now, I 
can access the Programme Guide through the associated Android/IOS App and play 
the recordings back with VLC or Windows Media Player.
The Fetch TV system is getting a little old now so I’m again looking at other 
alternatives and here’s one that I recommend to the whole list as its an 
International product, look up Silicondust and examine some of their offerings.


On 9 Oct 2018, at 5:27 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:

Sadly shamefully that's true. In Windows 10 they finally got rid of Windows 
Media Center. Which again made TV super accessible. We the blind should'a 
joined all those that apposed getting rid of it more firmly. Though who knows 
if with all the WMC fans and all the blind it would've still been enough or not.


On 10/8/2018 2:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Is Windows Media Center still available? I do remember that with Windows 7, a 
real blast that software was.
I thought Microsoft had discontinued the development of that software.
Windows Media Player of course keeps bowling along and I had a play with it a 
couple of weeks ago, one thing I'll say for that Player is that it found and 
played all the content I wanted to hear over my network and other computer 
systems.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 4:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?

Yeah I use Windows Media Player. Also it was the most accessible DVD player 
with Windows 7. Along with Windows Media Center. Too bad Microsoft gave them up 
insted of making them Blu-Ray Disk capable.


On 10/8/2018 1:45 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes I enjoyed Foober for a while there, guess I just fell back to VLC Media 
Player because of functionality and ease of use.
I wouldn't recommend iTunes for anyone whether they be a Mac or a Windows 
users, just far more complicated and intrusive than it really needs to be and 
it seems iTunes is more about looking pretty rather than providing 
functionality or flexibility, you can't play too much with iTunes for a start 
and that's part of the reason why I ditched the IOS platform in the main, like 
iTunes its too restrictive when it comes to media.
There's Windows Media Player of course which has a noble and loyal band of 
followers and - from what I've seen of the Software - with every justification, 
it’s a real neat player.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anders
Holmberg
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2018 4:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Differences between Winamp and VLC?

Hi!
WHen i was on windows which isn’t the case much anymore i used to use 
Foobar2000.
Just to give another perspective.
Imho Foobar was more customable and you could create shortcuts to  just 
anything you want.
There are other good players for video around for WIndows at least.
One called Gom player.
BUt i am on the mac and for mac there’s vlc and Itunes.
I  haven’t tried  any others.
/A

6 okt. 2018 kl. 02:32 skrev Tom Kaufman <[email protected]>:

Hello Dane and list:  VLC may be a good player for video (haven't
played with it as extensively as some) although I will say that I
tried to play a video that I have in my collection (is one of a show
that I was involved in) for whatever reason, VLC absolutely would not
play it!  Never was able to find out why!  For me, if you're strictly
talking about audio, I'll take Winamp any day and am sorry that it
isn't being updated anymore!  But that's just me; others may have
differing opinions, but Winamp is the one that seems to work best for me!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 8:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

For what its worth from me and thanks for starting this discussion.
Its been a very long while since I used Winamp, why did I stop using it?
Because Winamp kept crashing when I tried to play video files
recorded in standard TS format from my video TV tuners that I use
still ttill this day though different models obviously.
So then began my search for a new player that was easy to use and did
what I believe a player needs to do, play the track when I press
play, move to the next track or skip through a track when I press or
hold the forward button etc.
VLC did these things and many more besides.
I grant you, VLC is not the friendliest App to get around but one can
get around much of it using the JAWS cursor or whatever your thing is
called on your Screen Reader.
If I had my way equalisers in players wouldn't be present.
I know I sound harsh but the amount of times I've seen equalisers
abused to the point that people manage to stuff their speaker systems
up causes me to perhaps take this view.
A good sounding pair of speakers which don't cost all that much these
days shouldn't require any additional medaling in the form of an equaliser.
I went to someone's house the other day, this chap had what I would
call a perfectly serviceable pair of Altec Lansing computer speakers,
well at least I would have termed this speaker system in that way
when it was bought but after this chap had applied God only knows how
many equalisers in the audio chain? Well this respectable speaker
system had been turned to the sound of mud literally, sure! Enough
bottom but for what, to demolish the house and perhaps Next doors dwelling too? 
It certainly didn't sound good.
And the top, well it was there but incredibly harsh to the point that
my ears felt sore just trying to listen to the thing.
Where was the Mid-range? Lost somewhere in the cocofany of noise.
Anyway back to the point of VLC and I'm very pleased to say that the
developers are slowly but surely making accessibility fixes as
updates roll out and I reckon they're doing a fair job since VLC is
an open source package.
I use VLC on other devices such as my Apple Mac machines, iPhone and
iPads and Android with pleasing results.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, 6 October 2018 8:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

The VlC equalizer is certainly a lot less convenient to set and save
settings than the Winamp one using a screen-reader. One can easily
adopt any of the presets, but saving your own settings requires
messing with the not-too-accessible filters within the preferences
dialog box. Actually the whole design is weird and I wish that Video
Lan gave the ability to easily save and load multiple equalizer settings in VLC.

Just curious, but why not have both programmes? I watch a lot of
movies, especially with my sighted partner, and VLC is without doubt
an awesome video player and far more versatile and just better at
this than winamp ever was. However, I still use Winamp for my audio
needs and it works exceedingly well for this purpose even in Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian
Olesen
Sent: October 5, 2018 5:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [all-audio] Diferences between Winamp and VLC?

Hi all you nice audiofiles,

Well I use VLC myself, but I have an old fascion student, who prefers
Winamp.

I want to persuade him to do the switch.

But how is it with information about timing lenghth of files in
minutes and seconds and such. Can we easily get to that info also in VLC?

Are there other fields where VLC lacks information compared to Winamp?

Is it actually the other way around?



Best regards

Brian




































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