Ah na dude I'm using Chrome. IE's become too slow and froze. IE locks up too much. I was just firther prooving that point of how 1 can be too attached to the old thing. Thanks for letting me know though I didn't know. I just thought they didn't care no more.

On 10/11/2018 10:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You have freedom of choice but I'm sure you're aware of the fact that Internet 
Explorer is officially not supported any longer so if code changes on the Net 
then I.E. may have unexpected results.
I use Google Chrome on multiple platforms here, much like VLC.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Friday, 12 October 2018 1:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 
support leaks online

Yeah. now this is kinda off topic too but have you noted how IE ain't liked by 
JAWS either? So I switched to Chrome. Now in that vane that says awwww man I 
love good old trusty IE though. Girrrrr I can't stand some of the things Chrome 
does with Youtube. but oh wells I guess. Tough love. For instance the vid right 
under the recommended heading in Chrome don't get an add to watch later button. 
In trusty old Internet Explorer all vids git an add to watch later button. In 
IE it respects you may wana go back and watch another recommended vid from the 
origenal list.
Chrome Fire Fox and I'll bet ya Edge tottally dissrespectfull. Watch 1 vid long 
enough and when you go back the origenal list went bie bie. How rood as Jar Jar 
Binks says.


On 10/11/2018 10:06 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
Nope, it's not all and good for everything.
For example, my Window Eyes screen reader is now defunct. I can still
use it, but it's getting more difficult with web pages now, certainly
now it is useless with Firefox. So I've moved on to JAWS 18. It works
better in numerous ways, and it's faster as well.
So when something stops working as well as something that's still
being developed, then I'm moving on.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

All and good for you then but its not all and good for everything
though is it?
I’m not against Winamp at all and as I mentioned earlier I used the
software but even for me it became too bloated and I was left
wondering exactly what the aims of the developers of Winamp were, to
make something flashy or something that actually worked.
As I said earlier I was having trouble playing some content so I
decided at that point to “Move on”, no regrets whatever there.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 10:01 am, Evan Reese <[email protected]> wrote:

Well sure, when a new version of Windows comes out that Winamp will
not run under, then absolutely, I'll find another player. Just from
reading this list, I know I won't have any trouble finding a good
alternative. But until then...
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

There are a whole heap of different audio formats but that’s really
not the point.
As Windows evolves and changes that the software running on it has to
evolve with Windows.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:20 am, Evan Reese <[email protected]> wrote:

Being kept up to date how? How many new audio formats have you heard
about in the last few years?
So what's to be kept up to date with these newer players? The user
interface? As several others have already pointed out, Winamp has an
excellent user interface. New audio formats that Winamp can't play?
Well, I've already asked that question.
So what's the urgent imperative for being kept up to date with these
players?
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version with
Windows 10 support leaks online

And here lies the point,, what new things we have in this discussion
say VLC and Windows Media player are better than what you had as
they’re being developed and deliberately being kept up to date, user
feedback is being evaluated with regards to these and future products.
So look at the subject line which talks about a new version for
Winamp, where is it?


On 12 Oct 2018, at 8:10 am, Evan Reese <[email protected]> wrote:

You're right, some people don't like change.
But there's another alternative to either changing all the time or
staying behind. Change when what is new is significantly better
than what you have now. Change just for the sake of change is
pointless.
Evan

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

I’ve given this topic more thought and I think what it really boils
down to is that people don’t like change regardless how good or bad
something might be compared to another App, another method or
whatever so here’s the point, take onboard change or stay behind
and eventually stagnate.


On 12 Oct 2018, at 12:43 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
wrote:

Tom for those of us who have only kinda run across WinAmp. What
made it such a big thing with the blind? Maybe I didn't give it
much a chance. But actually the 1 I  used felt odd. But I only
tried it. But seeing it doesn't have SRS Wow like Media Player
does, I don't use it much. Meh I've tried it for streaming but
that's about all. I do know lots of people love WinAmp. I have
homies that do.


On 10/11/2018 12:04 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
While I've not dealt with every type of media player that ever
was, I don't see how one could get a whole lot better (as far as
accessibility is concerned) than Winamp; just my opinion, you
understand!
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new version
with Windows 10 support leaks online

Dane,

Winamp is the most accessible media player for the blind. It may
be old, but it is highly functional. I am listening to online
radio with it as I type this message.  Braille slates are more
than 80 years old but they are still used because they are
useful.  I also own and use a minidisc recorder. It is somewhat
ancient, but it remains highly effective for spoken word
recording.

Kelly

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On 10/10/18, dennis <[email protected]> wrote:
i would love to get it when it comes out.

On 10/10/2018 7:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Only me but I just couldn’t be bothered wasting my time
wondering what others are thinking about something that soon
will be ancient history.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 8:33 am, JM Casey
<[email protected]> ( [email protected] )
wrote: I have this beta. I'm skeptical how official it is and
I haven't bothered to install it, because Winamp
5.666
is working just fine for me in Windows 10. However, a couple
of others on other lists have reported that it works well.
-----Original
Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> (
[email protected] ) On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: October
10, 2018 4:57 PM To:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks online I probably
wouldn't download it right yet; not until we know that it is
"officially" out there! Wouldn't want something bad to get
into our computers! Tom Kaufman -----Original
Message----- From: [email protected] [
mailto:[email protected] ( [email protected] ) ] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan Sent:
Wednesday,
October 10, 2018 4:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re:
[all-audio]
Famous media player Winamp new version with Windows 10 support
leaks online all I can say is download and use at your own
risk.
On 11 Oct 2018, at 6:59 am, Brian Olesen <[email protected]>
( [email protected] ) wrote: Famous media player Winamp new
version with Windows 10 support leaks
online
By Mayank Parmar - September 17, 2018 Winamp for Windows
Remember Winamp?
The popular media player for Windows is expected to make
a
comeback at some point. Winamp was launched by independent
developers back in 1997 and it grew quickly popular with over
3 million downloads in a
short
span of time. In a couple of years, Winamp became one of the
most downloaded Windows applications. The app was sold to AOL
in
1999 for
$80
million but it later acquired by Radionomy in 2014.
Radionomy, the
current
developers of famous Winamp promised that the app will
receive a new update with several new features. A while ago,
the developers published release notes of an update but no
downloadable package was available for users to try out.
Winamp developers promised major updates ever since it took
over the company and we are
still
waiting for that day. It's an old and outdated app but it's
still being used by millions of
users.
A new version of Winamp, which was last developed on October
26, 2016, has leaked online. Winamp 5.8 has been published by
an unknown source and it's not from the official developers.
It's also worth noting that VirusTotal scan generates two
different
warnings
for the app, so we are not including the link to unreleased
Winamp update
in
this article. Winamp works fine on Windows 10 The Winamp 5.8
comes with several new features and improvements including
support for Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. It is, however, worth
noting that public and stable version of the app
works
smoothly on Windows 10, but Winamp 5.8 is supposed to address
compatibility
issues with Windows 10. As noted above, this release of
Winamp comes with several other improvements. For example,
there's a dedicated setting that lets you
disable
Winamp's video support and the company has also fixed some
bugs to improve the overall performance of the player. The
current owner hasn't officially announced any updates for the
app but
as
the beta has just leaked out, there's a chance that an
official statement will be released soon. It's also possible
that the developers are
internally
testing a new and improved version of the app with better
support for Windows 10. At this point, it's not yet known
whether a new Winamp release is planned
or
not. We are waiting for additional details from the
developers and we will update this article if and when a
statement is available.
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