Hello Hamit,

OK I must have listened to some of his reviews but don’t remember. Was the Zoom 
6 review in print or an audio review?

Hamit, I don’t know what is happening but your messages are strangely edited. 
You finish this message with the word on and it doesn’t have a full stop after 
it. It doesn’t make sense. I have noticed when you reply to a message you 
delete the content of the original composer but leave their signature which I 
guess people have read thousands of times and has no baring on the discussions 
thread. Making readers ask themselves what is he responding to?

Regards,

> On 14 May 2020, at 13:43, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ah Neal Ewers. Yes he is a studio person from Madison Wisconsin. He use to do 
> reviews on Blind cool tech. His site is www.ravenswood.org I don't know what 
> happened to his reviews page and his H6 review is pretty big. On
> 
> On 5/14/2020 7:50 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>> Hello Andy and Hamit,
>> 
>> Who is this Neil, can you point to his review?
>> 
>> All electronic devices make a noise but most of them are out of our hearing 
>> range. An amplifier does make a noise especially when it is cranked up to 
>> it’s maximum. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are known for being noisy. So can you 
>> quote Neil saying that the Zoom 6 preamps are not noisy?
>> 
>> Andy you can hear the pre-amp hiss on your bird recording. There are 2 ways 
>> you could eliminate or at least reduce that hiss if you wanted. That I know 
>> of.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>> On 14 May 2020, at 10:08, Andy via groups.io 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guys.
>>> 
>>> You may remember within his H6 Review, Neal stated "I would not know just 
>>> how to measure the Floor noise , because there doesent seem to be one!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andy.
>>> 
>>> know ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Recording from recorders like Zoom - How would you 
>>> do it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ah yeah than 35 must be the 1 Neal sent. He sent it to the Reaper list. 
>>>> I've yet to finish that 1.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/13/2020 12:17 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>> Hello Hamit,
>>>>> 
>>>>> No 36 is out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 17:04, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is 35 the newest 1? IF so no I've meant to just haven't gotten to it. 
>>>>>> Will do soon though. Thanks for the reminder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:13 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Hamit,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Out of interest do you listen to Mosen at large (specifically 35)? He 
>>>>>>> is singing from the roof about the F6 as it has an iPhone app which is 
>>>>>>> not perfect but gives access to functions we have never had access to 
>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 16:07, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Actually Gena there's 1 place where I'll give it to ya. Dynamic mics. 
>>>>>>>> This is also true for the H5 but much much less oddly enough. Same for 
>>>>>>>> the H4N Pro. The H6 in this respect is again as noisy as the Olympus 
>>>>>>>> LS-100. Now can't say on the F6 as no one's demoed dynamics on that 
>>>>>>>> yet and Neal hasn't demoed dynamics on his 744-T so can't say nothing 
>>>>>>>> on that either.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2020 11:02 AM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello Aidan,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Well I am picky, there is nothing wrong in getting the best out of 
>>>>>>>>> the equipment. The Zoom 6 pre-amps are renowned for their hiss. It 
>>>>>>>>> would be useful to share your tips to get the most from the recorder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 13:52, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> If using something like h6 I cannot really imagine that you would 
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>> to apply noise filters. Unless you very picky.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/20, Georgina Joyce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Tim,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, if using a non destructive DAW like reaper, if it is
>>>>>>>>>>> incorrectly applied simply undo it. I am not  familiar with using 
>>>>>>>>>>> expanders.
>>>>>>>>>>> But the noise comes from whatever equipment. Very few mics have a
>>>>>>>>>>> undetectable noise floor and even the best pre-amps have some 
>>>>>>>>>>> noise. So a
>>>>>>>>>>> light touch of post processing is likely to be required. But as you 
>>>>>>>>>>> rightly
>>>>>>>>>>> point out it is down to the environment and what purpose the 
>>>>>>>>>>> recording is to
>>>>>>>>>>> serve.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 May 2020, at 12:23, tim cumings <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree about most of theadvice here. However i would be careful 
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> using a noise gate. If set incorrectly, a noise gate can make 
>>>>>>>>>>>> things sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> worse than better. A downward expander would be better, but if you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> using a quality mic and have recording levels set properly, even a
>>>>>>>>>>>> downward expander probably isn't necessary, depending on what you 
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> recording.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2020 5:30 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rather than making the current discussion on Zoom Microphones. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very long
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I would ask the community  of their experiences and how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> undertake a recording? As I was not sure if Andy wanted tips on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>> techniques I thought such a thread would help him and those of us 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Zoom.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I would record in wav. Then use reaper to apply a noise 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This removes hiss and other quiet unwanted noises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not use a capsule on the recorder unless it was the only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for that application. Using such a mic I would secure 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder and start the recording early so that I could discard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>> second as it will contain handling noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would not wear noisy clothing or jewellery and try to get away 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> active recording space. It is surprising how  clothing, shoes and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bangles
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rustle and jangle when you are trying to be quiet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it is about choosing the mic for the sound stage I am trying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> capture. Remembering that the wider stage means that I have to be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much quieter. It could pick me up breathing and moving my feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then there are practical considerations such as power for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoom and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> protection from wind and rain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of the top of my head these are the considerations I would employ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a recording. So what about your experiences and approach?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gena
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Gena
>>>>> 
>>>>> Call: M0EBP
>>>>> DMR ID: 2346259
>>>>> Loc: IO83PS
>>>>> 73
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Call: M0EBP
>> DMR ID: 2346259
>> Loc: IO83PS
>> 73
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Gena

Call: M0EBP
DMR ID: 2346259
Loc: IO83PS
73


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