Jane and all;   All the various taxonomic name changes that seem to come so 
frequently now has caused me to give up entirely on trying to be "proper" in my 
botanical nomenclature.  I know and enjoy plants by the names they had when I 
encountered them.   Rydbergia grandiflora was one of my favorite plants when I 
became aware of the flora of the Big Horn Mountains.  I like that its name 
honors one of the early Rock Mountain taxonomists.  For me it will continue to 
be Rydbergia grandiflora.  Others can call it what they like.  I have the same 
attitude to most of the recent nomenclatural reshufflings - particularly since 
I have become more interested in learning about the physiology of plants 
(particularly Trillium sp.).  Knowledge of plant physiology helps me grow the 
plants I like - nomenclatural reshuffling does not.

John Gyer  Clarksboro  NJ  USA  -  now 75 and claiming the right of age to be 
grumpy!
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  Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] another civility issue


  Jim McKenney wrote: 

   "In most groups to which I belong, members will not hesitate to correct one 
another (sometimes very rudely) about the identification of plants, especially 
if the “wrong” botanical name is used. It goes so far that some people will 
pipe up and – comity be damned – sharply correct a speaker’s identification 
during a lecture/slide presentation. In the past this was confined mostly to 
persons with a highly specialized knowledge of the area in question (and we 
have not shortage of experts here). But now that so many popular gardening 
publications jump at the chance to use the latest and greatest name, everyman 
now thinks himself an expert."


  Forgive me, Jim, if I am misinterpreting your comment.  However, I think you 
were alluding to botanical synonyms.   For example, in my alpine area, the 
large-flowering yellow composite is known to me as Hymenoxys grandiflora.  But 
recently published, very popular, pictorial wildflower guides identify this 
species as Tetraneuris grandiflora.  Additionally, an older synonym I remember 
from my introduction to wildflowers some 35 years ago was Rydbergia grandiflora.


  The genus Senecio is another example.  The species formerly in Senecio that 
are native to my area have been split into several genera.  However, in my 
garden, they still bear their "Senecio" identification.  If some "highly 
educated" visitor objects to my "lumping", he or she may excuse him or herself 
and go visit another garden, possibly managed by a "splitter".


  Jane Hendrix
  Mountain View Experimental Gardens
  Peak 7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado U.S.A.
  Elevation: 10,000 feet
  USDA Zone 4
  Website:  http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix










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