Sorry, I forgot to remove the germination part of the subject line last time. Thanks, Jane
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > Cohan, > > Very nice Castilleja photos. Some of those bicolored specimens are a work > of art! > > In looking at the various combinations of cream, pink, rose and red in > individual plants, I was reminded of the hybridization between C. sulphurea > and C. rhexifolia. Do you have C. rhexifolia growing nearby? > > Jane Hendrix > Mountain View Experimental Gardens > Peak 7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado USA > Elevation: 10,000 feet > USDA Zone: 4 > Website: http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: cohan fulford <[email protected]> > To: "Alpine-L, the Electronic Rock Garden Society, postings copyright by > authors." <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Castilleja Seed Germination > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 18:52:46 -0700 > > Since we are on Castilleja..... > > I have several populations �in my area of beautiful mixed colour plants, > the exact origins of which I have not yet determined- only miniata appears > in my area on maps, but I think my area is not well surveyed,is a bit of a > border area between several biomes, and things creep in from species that > are not officially recorded here. The plants in the populations range from > near white to creamy pale yellows, �through salmon to scarlet, with an > occasional almost true red, but not true pinks nor anything purply, and > many bi or tri-coloured 'flowers' in various combinations of the above.. > its been suggested they are likely hybrids between miniata and something > else, but the 'something else' does not occur here by itself as far as I > have seen (not the final word on populations, and maybe the other species > is right there and I don't recognise it! There are sites with only scarlet > and salmon miniata types, but no sites with only the cream coloured plants) > so I presume the cross occurred elsewhere (likely in the foothills where > other species are recorded) and the plants moved down here as hybrids, or > perhaps, another species used to exist around here and does not now... > Here is one of the populations; the comments were written before I was > told by someone much more knowledgeable than I, on Flickr, that they are > likely hybrids, though he had not had a chance to really examine them > closely yet; fewer mixed colour plants than the other population, but some > very tall plants, some up to nearly a metre. > https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July102011Castilleja > > This is the original population I'd seen, several miles as the crow flies > from the one above, farther by road; I showed pics from this site before, > but this is a different year/album > > https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July072010ThunderAndPaintbrushes > � > Here is the album I would have shared a couple of years ago, with some of > the best mixed colour plants.. > https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/Castilleja2009� > > You can get some sense of the habitat from the albums-- both are in > roadside ditches, ranging from moist areas in the ditch bottom (though > absent from the wettest spots) up the banks to medium and some dryish > spots, depending on the year... and ranging from full sun spots to morning > or afternoon sun only and into open aspen stands.. At both sites they > extend quite some distance along the ditch- at least a quarter mile at one > site, and probably nearer a mile at the other, and to varying extents on > both sides of the gravel road.They grow with many other species from > grasses and invasive forage plants like clover and sweet clover to native > Geranium richardsonii, Anemone canadensis (at one of the sites only, and > ranging a bit more to the lower, damper end of the site, with Castilleja > mostly at the other), various native asters and other compositae, Lilium > philadelphicum, wild rose and other shrubs, Vicia, Lathyrus, etc etc....� > Here's an album showing some companions at the first site shown above- (I > haven't got these labelled yet! Lets see-- Achillea, Arnica, Erigeron, > Campanula, Hieracium? Galium) > > https://picasaweb.google.com/111492944361897930115/July102011BesideThePaintbrushes > �. > I have sent seed to Gardens North from the original site in 2009, and both > sites in 2010; I did not get seed sent this year, but still have some from > the second site... I have not yet tried sowing any- but knowing now they > don't need a host in the seed pot, I probably will! > Cohan > West Central Alberta, Canada, Zone 2-3 > record temps from 10-20 miles away:� min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F�� > http://picasaweb.google.com/cactuscactus� > > � >> I have read elsewhere that C. sulphurea and C. miniata hybridize freely.� >> I have not observed this in my area.� The two species grow side-by-side >> throughout my neighborhood.� The red C. miniata are always red; the >> creamy-white C. sulphurea are always creamy-white.� Even the vegetative >> parts (leaves and stems) of these two species remain distinct.� Before they >> go to seed, I mark a selection of C. miniata plants with a red twist-tie >> and the C. sulphurea plants with a white twist-tie so I can keep the >> collected seeds separate.� However, the foliage of these two species is so >> distinct that those colored twist-ties are just added insurance that I have >> identified the plants correctly. >> � >> Jane Hendrix >> Mountain View Experimental Gardens >> Peak 7 Area - Breckenridge, Colorado USA >> Elevation: 10,000 feet >> USDA Zone: 4 >> Website:� http://www.picturetrail.com/hendrix >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > Alpine-l mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l > > -- West Central Alberta, Canada, Zone 2-3 record temps from 10-20 miles away: min -45C/-49F;max 34C/93F http://picasaweb.google.com/cactuscactus
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