jrhett wrote:

>>> Now, how can I prevent Bayes from SUBTRACTING 2.6 from every message
>>> short of completely disabling it?

>> adjust scores, here are likely current settings:

> This I knew already.  I was questioning if doing so would make bayes
> invalid enough that I should simply disable Bayes entirely?  There might
> be more and better logic for this...

Adjusting Bayes scores does not affect Bayes. Bayes is not recursive.

If you know all the stuff that has been discussed, then you know
enough about Bayes to realize that it needs good data to make decisions.
A lot of stuff can be auto-learned, but when you find spam like the
one that scored BAYES_00, then you need to manually feed it to Bayes.
You desire to not spend any time doing that (none of us do), but I
don't see how you can correct your out-of-whack (possibly poisoned)
database without putting *some* sort of effort into retraining it
(even if that means dumping it and starting over - and letting it
simply autolearn - which is a valid option for a poisoned database).

It's sad, but we are at war with the spammers and the virus writers
and the adware companies and the hackers and the spyware writers.
Their tactics change on a daily basis, and so must ours. War often
requires effort, sorry.

Mark's suggestions are good ones: make sure everything else is working
as good as it can so it is more likely spam will score over your
autolearn threshold. I also suggested lowering your thresholds. The
only harm that zeroing out your lower scoring Bayes rules will cause
is your legitimate mail is likely to score higher. Whether it makes
a difference or not depends on your tag2_level, kill_level and in
general, what typical legitimate mail is currently scoring at. You
should probably keep an eye on it if you zero them out.

What version of SpamAssassin are you running? Are you using any SARE
rules?

Gary V


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