Hello Fred,

Do you think it is better to close AmiBroker, go to Windows Explorer 
and manage database deletion from there (you will have to remember 
which database you last nominated as the default in 
tools/preferences) 

OR

go to AB file/delete whilst Amibroker is open and delete the old 
databases from there?

Regards,

BrianB2.





--- In [email protected], "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What ??? ... No MP3 Player ?! ... and I was so hoping that 
eventually 
> I'd automatically get a popup video that would not only show me 
the 
> error of my ways in coding and of course automatically fix them, 
but 
> would also perform the same function for non profitable 
systems ... 
> Waaaaaaa ... 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Just few thoughts about things you mentioned in your reply.
> > 
> > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry 
standard' 
> > > features that are lacking in the program in general 
> > 
> > There are no "industry standard" features lacking in the program 
in 
> general.
> > AmiBroker features GUI fully conforming to LATEST UI standards,
> > including most modern UI look ("Whidbey or 2006 look").
> > For more info see:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_customizeui.html
> > 
> > Actually no other T/A platform has such modern, aestetical and 
> configurable
> > interface as AmiBroker has.  
> > 
> > Just install any other T/A software and you will quickly see
> > how outdated they are compared to AmiBroker when it comes to UI.
> > 
> > > ... and the  workspace in particular 
> > 
> > I don't know exactly what you mean with the workspace. The old 
> workspace pane is gone
> > in 4.80 as all tabs are now fully configurable and detachable.
> > 
> > If you mean symbol tree or chart tree then there are several 
ideas 
> floating around
> > how to make it better but it functionality outpaces most other 
T/A 
> softwares
> > (for example Metastock has no built in support for categories at 
> all and
> > its indicator list is flat (without folders at all) ).
> > 
> > That said it does not mean that things can not be made even 
better.
> > 
> > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating features 
> are a 
> > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I 
don't 
> know 
> > > anything about those systems).
> > 
> > I wrote you : AmIBroker GUI already features newest 
and "coolest" 
> and
> > up-to most recent Microsoft-fashion GUI design in T/A world.
> > 
> > I am afraid you mixup two things: you say GUI when thinking 
about 
> some
> > particular feature such as for example updating your watch list 
> from AmiQuote
> > (instead of full symbol list). This isn't GUI. This is a 
> convenience feature.
> > 
> > As to:
> > 
> > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be 
incorrect 
> > > while retaining other parts.
> > > REPLY by  Tomasz Janeczko
> > > status - Closed   
> > > Status - Functionality exists  
> > 
> > why did I close this issue ? Simply because it is:
> > a) achievable simply using Windows Explorer - you can delete 
> database files/directories.
> > The meaning of files is described in the User's Guide:
> > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/h_workspace.html
> > and
> > http://www.amibroker.com/guide/x_files.html
> > 
> > b) rarely used once you start actual trading. 
> > It could be used more often in phase when you 
are "experimenting" 
> but
> > once you are done with experiments and start trading the need to 
> delete database
> > may appear once or twice a week at most. So I don't see any 
problem 
> in using
> > Windows Explorer once or twice a week.
> > 
> > I understand that you would like to have everything included 
(maybe 
> MP3 player too),
> > but for me it has such low priority that I have to scratch that 
as 
> there are things
> > hundreds of times more important than this.
> > 
> > 
> > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will only be 
> > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am not 
> entirely
> > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic 
enough 
> for 
> > > my liking).
> > 
> > Well democracy may be good idea for ruling countries,
> > but when it comes to software development there has to be someone
> > who directs the show and is responsible for the whole thing.
> > Democracy in software development does not exist. Even open 
source
> > projects have "leaders" that ultimately decide and their 
decision 
> is final and binding.
> > 
> > Still you will find AmiBroker one of the most user-oriented 
company 
> in T/A software world,
> > listening to users and implementing features asked for.
> > 
> > AmiBroker is written entirely by me so I fully control its 
> development and
> > direction in which it evolves.
> > While you are welcome to suggest things please do not expect me 
to 
> explain each and every decision of mine.
> > I have good reasons to do what I do and I am doing my best to 
make 
> good decisions.
> > My goal is to get most bang for the buck. When it comes to 
> marketing it means that you get great program for low price.
> > When it comes to development it means to spend time on most 
> critical features and features used by majority first and postpone
> > less important / rarely used things.
> > 
> > The fact that AmiBroker is around for 11 years now means that my 
> choices were not that bad.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "brian.z123" <brian.z123@>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 4:46 AM
> > Subject: [amibroker] Re: Indicator Maintenance
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello Tomasz,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your reply and consideration of my points.
> > > 
> > > I made it quite clear that I was referring to 'industry 
standard' 
> > > features that are lacking in the program in general and the 
> > > workspace in particular so it is not a fair response that you 
> only 
> > > refer to a few particular features that are actually available 
in 
> > > one 'pane' of the workspace alone.
> > > 
> > > I specifically acknowledged that I was wearing my 'new user' 
hat 
> and 
> > > that my arguments were 'off the top of my head' (it is 
generally 
> > > accepted in 'creative or problem solving' sessions that it is 
> best 
> > > not to censor the output in the intitial phase).
> > > I don't think you will find one single example in any post I 
have 
> > > made in any forum where I have failed to back up my 
> opening 'silly' 
> > > statements if challenged (there are one or two exceptions 
where I 
> > > withdrew but that was done to protect others, not me).
> > > I also already conceded; 'That (my comments are) of course ... 
> only 
> > > a personal opinion and perhaps my views will change as I spend 
> more 
> > > time in the program.'
> > > 
> > > Ergonomics is a relatively new word.
> > > One way it is used is as a measure of 'energy efficiency 
within 
> work 
> > > processes'.
> > > That is what I meant when I used it and within the context of 
> > > computer programs my measure of ergonomic efficiency is the 
> number 
> > > of mouse clicks required to perform a set task and also the 
ease 
> > > with which we can replicate that task at a later date (from 
> memory?)
> > > 
> > > My Office assistant is turned off and always has been.
> > > 
> > > I stand by my comments that AB lacks ergonomics, training and 
> detail 
> > > in part or partss.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My Proposition:
> > > 
> > > My proposition is that 'Microsoft like' GUI operating features 
> are a 
> > > defacto industry standard (sorry Mac, Linux users etc - I 
don't 
> know 
> > > anything about those systems).
> > > My expectation of programs is that they will equal or surpass 
> > > the 'industry standard'.
> > > Of course that is a very general statement that can't be 
easily 
> > > debated without specific examples and in this case I didn't 
> provide 
> > > any.
> > > All I ask, at any time, is that each suggestion is considered 
on 
> its 
> > > own merit and not 'marked' according to the status of the 
poster 
> or 
> > > the prejudices of individual forum members.
> > > My confidence in that area is a little down at the moment.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Re: a specific example from within the database of existing 
posts
> > > 
> > > 
******************************************************************
> > > 
> > > Post #195 from the feedback center.
> > > subject - delete old databases from file menu 
> > > 
> > > I said:
> > > Consider selection of partial deletions for anything than can 
be 
> > > separated out i.e retain data and delete categories 
> > > (broker workspace) and vice-versa, layouts?
> > > 
> > > Reason.
> > > 
> > > Easy management of old/trial databases.
> > > Allow removal of parts of database that are known to be 
incorrect 
> > > while retaining other parts.
> > > If database is current or default AB will 'know' and make 
> > > announcement and/or adjustment.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You said:
> > > REPLY by  Tomasz Janeczko
> > > status - Closed   
> > > Status - Functionality exists  
> > > 
> > > If you mean most recently used database list in File menu - 
non-
> > > existing folders ALREADY gets deleted from the menu.
> > > Just delete the directory using Windows explorer and next time 
> you 
> > > run AmiBroker it won't show up in the File menu. 
> > > 
> > > 
> *******************************************************************
> > > 
> > > Admittedly I did not explain myself very well at the feedback 
> > > center, but I did follow up later with an email via support 
that 
> > > clarified and detailed my case.
> > > You could have also asked for further clarification at the 
> feedback 
> > > center if you weren't sure what I meant.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What is the 'industry standard' for file management within 
> programs?
> > > 
> > > Go to the program file menu and delete the old program 
> > > files/databases that the user no longer requires.
> > > View all of the program files/databases in a hierarchical tree 
> and 
> > > enact commands from there.
> > > 
> > > What is the AB standard?
> > > 
> > > Close AB (or go out of AB?), go to Windows Explorer and delete 
> old 
> > > databases from there.
> > > 
> > > What specific delete features could AB provide that MS can not 
be 
> > > expected to?
> > > 
> > > If the user attempts to delete a database that is selected in 
AB 
> > > preferences as the default, Windows Explorer will not delete 
it.
> > > If file/delete existed in AB the user could be given a 
> message 'this 
> > > database can not be deleted as it is the default. To delete 
this 
> > > database go to tools etc'.
> > > 
> > > The AB database folder also contains components that have 
extra 
> > > relevance to the user. The user might want to keep the symbol 
> > > lists/categories and just delete all price data.
> > > File/delete in AB could provide users with appropriate delete 
> > > options to do that type of thing and also warn as to the 
> > > consequences of each action.
> > > 
> > > The above, existing case, is a reasonable example of 
> the 'industry 
> > > standard'/AB gap.
> > > At the least it is worthy of consideration and discussion.
> > > If I don't post any new examples in the future it will only be 
> > > because I choose to conserve my energy and/or that I am not 
> entirely
> > > comfortable in the feedback center (it is not democratic 
enough 
> for 
> > > my liking).
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > >
> >
>






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