Careful with compressed gases ... they can create a lot of static electricity, unless they are designed specifically not to.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested > Hi Yuki: > > My tech friends use cans of compressed gas to blow off the accumulation, > rather than > risking sucking up the cpu chip or fan off of it's zip socket with a > vacuum > cleaner or poking around with a > toothpick. > I'm sure it's not chlorofluorocarbon gas in today's environment and the > gas > is said to be non ozone depleting. > DusterT II Compressed Gas Air Duster, 10-oz. Can from Kensington. > > Best regards > JOE > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yuki Taga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Keith McCombs" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:18 AM > Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: XP debugging help urgently requested > > >> Hi Keith, >> >> Anybody know how to get a P4 fan/heatsink off? >> >> I put it on (I built the box), and of course I'm aware of the two >> primary levers that release it, but it's a partial release, not a >> complete one, and I can't remember exactly how to get that thing off, >> and I'm not into yanking stuff off the MB. ^_^ >> >> With a flashlight, I can see some accumulation between the fins of >> the heat sink (beyond the fan) that have to be taken care of. What >> has happened is that some dust has actually formed a curtain over the >> top of some of the fins, which of course is really cutting down on >> the airflow. I used a toothpick to gently dislodge some of it, and >> then vacuumed. But I think a more thorough job is called for. There >> are no more curtains, but I can see dust. >> >> I have been remiss about keeping my eye on the CPU temp. It's always >> run a bit on the hot side (mid 40s), and lately it's been sneaking >> higher, and I haven't paid enough attention to it. This little bit >> of cleaning I did dropped the temp SIX DEGREES C, so no minor deal. >> >> There are AB routines that will take the temp up 20 from its ambient, >> so I need to be more careful. The only thing I've got monitoring it >> is the old Motherboard Monitor, which is not supported any longer. It >> gives me board and CPU temps, however. >> >> So a key question for me at this point would be, does a CPU just go, >> or does it degrade, giving intermittent problems, because of long >> term overheating? Given what I saw under the flashlight, I've been >> slowly cooking this, and if a CPU degrades, rather than just fails, >> that is most likely the seat of the problem. >> >> It isn't like I never clean the box, either. And I've put a vacuum >> on that CPU fan before. I've always been tentative about that >> however, because it actually reverses the fan blade action from it's >> normal direction, which is to suck air in over the fins. I've also >> blown compressed air in there, but tentatively there, too, because >> compressed air can get pretty cold in a hurry (at least the can >> does), and I don't know just what damage I might be doing along with >> the good. Without a flashlight, it just wasn't too obvious what was >> building up in there that the vacuum could not pull out. Once >> dislodged though, a lot of stuff came out. But there is more dust in >> there. >> >> Maybe I'm better off replacing the CPU, which would have to be pretty >> cheap now, if I could even find one (P4 2.53 GHz). >> >> Thanks all, >> >> Yuki >> >> Saturday, September 16, 2006, 3:28:59 PM, you wrote: >> >> KM> Like Rik, I too have had CPU overheating problems. I have a small >> KM> utility that came with my computer that shows and records >> temperatures. >> KM> If you have such, give it a try. Recently I fixed my problems >> (computer >> KM> shutting down completely during evening virus scans), by cleaning the >> KM> heat sink and fan. I also used new grease between the fan and cpu, >> but >> KM> only because I had to remove the fan in order to get two years of >> dust >> KM> bunnies out of it. >> >> KM> BTW, right now I have my "red line" set for 70 C. Normally the CPU >> runs >> KM> at 40 C, but during 1 hour full virus scan it gets up to 55 C. >> >> KM> Hope this helps. >> KM> -- Keith >> >> KM> Rik Rasmussen wrote: >>>> >>>> I have had two pc's running XP develop problems that ended up being >>>> the fan >>>> on the CPU. In one case it had stopped and the cpu overheated. In the >>>> ohter >>>> case, the fan was apparently running too slow to cool. >>>> >>>> In both cases replacing the cpu fan fixed the problem. >>>> >>>> Rik Rasmussen >>>> >>>> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Yuki >> >> >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >> >> For other support material please check also: >> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >> >> >> Yahoo! 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