Hello,

Just FYI, everyone who wants to upload to http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty
just drop me an e-mail (privately) and I will give you necessary FTP server 
details
required to log in.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brian.z123" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:47 AM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Group File Deletions


> ~Bman,
> 
> I can't criticise your motives which are based on concern for your 
> fellow man/woman.
> Frequently it is necessary for leaders to make tough decisions based 
> on the greater good e.g do we keep every file for ever because one 
> person might find it interesting some day or do we delete files with 
> little value to make it easier for, say, 100 new users to research 
> the collection?
> 
> I don't know about others, but my time is like gold to me and I 
> don't think it is *cool* to rummage around amongst other peoples 
> junk files.
> 
> I have *quickly* read every file in the database and I am confident 
> in saying that a lot of them are a load of old rubbish.
> When I voted I erred on the side of caution and kept the doubtful 
> files.
> I also allowed for a ? vote which indicates I don't know enough 
> about it to make a firm decision.
> ?'s can stay as far as I am concerned.
> 
> Here are three examples of the types of files we have:
> 
> 1. years old zipped collection that contains an executable with no 
> notes or instructions and no reference to a #message.
> 
> I don't want to open executables when I don't know what they are 
> going to do.
> The site that it is referenced to i.e. yahoo sometimes changes it's 
> format.
> The file probably doesn't even work anymore.
> 
> 2. years old .CSV file with no instructions, no column headings, and 
> no reference to #message.
> It appears to be a ticker list.
> People are obsessed with stockpiling ticker lists.
> Sources of current ticker lists are readily available for download 
> in various places; the exchanges are one good place to start.
> 
> 3. sound wave files??????????
> 
> There are a gazillion and one sound wave files easily optainable 
> from the net.
> 
> How many of the owners of these files are still active forum members 
> or even paid up Ami subscribers?
> Not one single owner of a file has come forward to say 'My file is 
> abc123 and this is what it is useful for and it is still current. 
> Would the forum like me to add some txt instructions?'.
> Off course they don't have to do that but it makes me wonder.
> If the owners don't have any pride in their own work why would I 
> place any value on it?
> 
> That is just three examples but rest assured I considered every file 
> carefully and justified my vote to my own conscience.
> 
> BrianB2.
> 
> 2. --- In [email protected], "brpnw1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Removing files does not get my vote. You could be removing 
> something 
>> that has value for somebody else. How can one individual determine 
>> the value a file might have for another individual? This is 
>> impossible.
>> 
>> I continue to stupidly delete my own old code that later on I find 
> I 
>> need. If I simply archived all my code, this would not be an 
> issue. 
>> So now I archive EVERYTHING. Organization is the bigger issue now.
>> 
>> Removing files should never be necessary. Reorganizing them might 
> be 
>> helpful, though. Creating an organization system that can be 
> monkey-
>> tested on novice users is probably the best way to go. If a newbie 
>> can't navigate the file structure to find what they want quickly 
> and 
>> easily, then don't mess with it in the first place because you 
> will 
>> not have achieved the goal.
>> 
>> ~Bman
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is really no shortage of real estate - all the other 
> groups 
>> I listed here yesterday have plenty of free space for additional 
>> files...
>> > 
>> > Steve
>> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >   From: Mark H 
>> >   To: [email protected] 
>> >   Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:03 PM
>> >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
>> > 
>> > 
>> >   Hi Brian:
>> > 
>> >   Instead of going though this selection voting process, how 
> about 
>> consult with TJ to see if we can move all those files to a folder 
>> under:
>> >   http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/
>> > 
>> >   They are merely 20MB in total. Very little space indeed in 
> terms 
>> of a modern hard drive.
>> >   Then we can put a note and a link over amibroker group file 
>> section so people can find the files.
>> >   If this doesn't work, then we can vote,
>> > 
>> >   - Mark H.
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >     From: brian.z123 
>> >     To: [email protected] 
>> >     Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:56 PM
>> >     Subject: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
>> > 
>> > 
>> >     VOTE,VOTE, VOTE.
>> > 
>> >     I am going to collect suggestions about the Group file 
> section 
>> to 
>> >     send to support.
>> >     I am also inviting all forum users to vote for the files 
> they 
>> would 
>> >     like to keep in the file section.
>> >     The format of the voting process is discussed in an attached 
>> post.
>> >     At the end of the voting I will send the results to support 
>> and ask 
>> >     them to consider deleting files that no one or perhaps very 
>> few want 
>> >     to keep.
>> > 
>> >     DO NOT EMAIL SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE.
>> > 
>> >     It is entirely my own initiative.
>> > 
>> >     QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON VOTING ETC IS INVITED WITHIN THIS 
>> TOPIC.
>> > 
>> >     Voting will be confidential.
>> >     Please do not make people feel uncomfortable by commenting 
> on 
>> the 
>> >     votes as recorded or file ownership by name.
>> >     A vigorous discussion on the use of the file section will be 
>> invited 
>> >     in a separate topic.
>> > 
>> >     THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
>> >     THERE IS NO GUARANTEE AT THE END THAT ANY ACTION WILL BE 
> TAKEN 
>> BY 
>> >     SUPPORT. 
>> > 
>> >     I am not sure what the outcome will be.
>> >     It depends on the forum and whether or not we can reach a 
>> reasonable 
>> >     consensus on any issue or issues.
>> > 
>> >     THE FINAL DECISION IN ANY CASE REMAINS WITH AMIBROKER 
> SUPPORT.
>> > 
>> >     Don't shoot me I am only the messenger.
>> >     This is a one-off initiative on my part.
>> >     It does not imply that I would undertake any similar action 
> in 
>> the 
>> >     future or that I have any defined role or authority within 
> the 
>> group.
>> > 
>> >     Thanks for your consideration of my proposals.
>> > 
>> >     BrianB2.
>> >
>>
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