Brian,

Thanks for the offer.
Hold off until the end of the week when I will co-ordinate a 
response with AmiBroker support.
I will help further if support recommends any action.
Perhaps we can work together.
It looks like a move to the 3rd party site for some of the files 
might keep all parties happy.

BrianB2.

--- In [email protected], "brpnw1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Somebody mentioned earlier there's no limitations on Yahoo archive 
> space. I might take advantage of that and use it as a reason to 
> throw all the old stuff together in one folder, and not spend time 
> organizing it. Kind of like when you visit the junk yard to find 
the 
> part you need. Half the fun is in going through the old junkers. 
> Wouldn't want to spoil the sense of ancient history for the 
> newcomers. The stuff you found makes for a good junker.
> 
> ~Bman
> 
> --- In [email protected], "brian.z123" <brian.z123@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > ~Bman,
> > 
> > I can't criticise your motives which are based on concern for 
your 
> > fellow man/woman.
> > Frequently it is necessary for leaders to make tough decisions 
> based 
> > on the greater good e.g do we keep every file for ever because 
one 
> > person might find it interesting some day or do we delete files 
> with 
> > little value to make it easier for, say, 100 new users to 
research 
> > the collection?
> > 
> > I don't know about others, but my time is like gold to me and I 
> > don't think it is *cool* to rummage around amongst other peoples 
> > junk files.
> > 
> > I have *quickly* read every file in the database and I am 
> confident 
> > in saying that a lot of them are a load of old rubbish.
> > When I voted I erred on the side of caution and kept the 
doubtful 
> > files.
> > I also allowed for a ? vote which indicates I don't know enough 
> > about it to make a firm decision.
> > ?'s can stay as far as I am concerned.
> > 
> > Here are three examples of the types of files we have:
> > 
> > 1. years old zipped collection that contains an executable with 
no 
> > notes or instructions and no reference to a #message.
> > 
> > I don't want to open executables when I don't know what they are 
> > going to do.
> > The site that it is referenced to i.e. yahoo sometimes changes 
> it's 
> > format.
> > The file probably doesn't even work anymore.
> > 
> > 2. years old .CSV file with no instructions, no column headings, 
> and 
> > no reference to #message.
> > It appears to be a ticker list.
> > People are obsessed with stockpiling ticker lists.
> > Sources of current ticker lists are readily available for 
download 
> > in various places; the exchanges are one good place to start.
> > 
> > 3. sound wave files??????????
> > 
> > There are a gazillion and one sound wave files easily optainable 
> > from the net.
> > 
> > How many of the owners of these files are still active forum 
> members 
> > or even paid up Ami subscribers?
> > Not one single owner of a file has come forward to say 'My file 
is 
> > abc123 and this is what it is useful for and it is still 
current. 
> > Would the forum like me to add some txt instructions?'.
> > Off course they don't have to do that but it makes me wonder.
> > If the owners don't have any pride in their own work why would I 
> > place any value on it?
> > 
> > That is just three examples but rest assured I considered every 
> file 
> > carefully and justified my vote to my own conscience.
> > 
> > BrianB2.
> > 
> > 2. --- In [email protected], "brpnw1" <tradermail@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Removing files does not get my vote. You could be removing 
> > something 
> > > that has value for somebody else. How can one individual 
> determine 
> > > the value a file might have for another individual? This is 
> > > impossible.
> > > 
> > > I continue to stupidly delete my own old code that later on I 
> find 
> > I 
> > > need. If I simply archived all my code, this would not be an 
> > issue. 
> > > So now I archive EVERYTHING. Organization is the bigger issue 
> now.
> > > 
> > > Removing files should never be necessary. Reorganizing them 
> might 
> > be 
> > > helpful, though. Creating an organization system that can be 
> > monkey-
> > > tested on novice users is probably the best way to go. If a 
> newbie 
> > > can't navigate the file structure to find what they want 
quickly 
> > and 
> > > easily, then don't mess with it in the first place because you 
> > will 
> > > not have achieved the goal.
> > > 
> > > ~Bman
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Steve Dugas" <sjdugas@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is really no shortage of real estate - all the other 
> > groups 
> > > I listed here yesterday have plenty of free space for 
additional 
> > > files...
> > > > 
> > > > Steve
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Mark H 
> > > >   To: [email protected] 
> > > >   Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 9:03 PM
> > > >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   Hi Brian:
> > > > 
> > > >   Instead of going though this selection voting process, how 
> > about 
> > > consult with TJ to see if we can move all those files to a 
> folder 
> > > under:
> > > >   http://www.amibroker.org/3rdparty/
> > > > 
> > > >   They are merely 20MB in total. Very little space indeed in 
> > terms 
> > > of a modern hard drive.
> > > >   Then we can put a note and a link over amibroker group 
file 
> > > section so people can find the files.
> > > >   If this doesn't work, then we can vote,
> > > > 
> > > >   - Mark H.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >     ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >     From: brian.z123 
> > > >     To: [email protected] 
> > > >     Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 7:56 PM
> > > >     Subject: [amibroker] Group File Deletions
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >     VOTE,VOTE, VOTE.
> > > > 
> > > >     I am going to collect suggestions about the Group file 
> > section 
> > > to 
> > > >     send to support.
> > > >     I am also inviting all forum users to vote for the files 
> > they 
> > > would 
> > > >     like to keep in the file section.
> > > >     The format of the voting process is discussed in an 
> attached 
> > > post.
> > > >     At the end of the voting I will send the results to 
> support 
> > > and ask 
> > > >     them to consider deleting files that no one or perhaps 
> very 
> > > few want 
> > > >     to keep.
> > > > 
> > > >     DO NOT EMAIL SUPPORT ON THIS ISSUE.
> > > > 
> > > >     It is entirely my own initiative.
> > > > 
> > > >     QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON VOTING ETC IS INVITED WITHIN 
> THIS 
> > > TOPIC.
> > > > 
> > > >     Voting will be confidential.
> > > >     Please do not make people feel uncomfortable by 
commenting 
> > on 
> > > the 
> > > >     votes as recorded or file ownership by name.
> > > >     A vigorous discussion on the use of the file section 
will 
> be 
> > > invited 
> > > >     in a separate topic.
> > > > 
> > > >     THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
> > > >     THERE IS NO GUARANTEE AT THE END THAT ANY ACTION WILL BE 
> > TAKEN 
> > > BY 
> > > >     SUPPORT. 
> > > > 
> > > >     I am not sure what the outcome will be.
> > > >     It depends on the forum and whether or not we can reach 
a 
> > > reasonable 
> > > >     consensus on any issue or issues.
> > > > 
> > > >     THE FINAL DECISION IN ANY CASE REMAINS WITH AMIBROKER 
> > SUPPORT.
> > > > 
> > > >     Don't shoot me I am only the messenger.
> > > >     This is a one-off initiative on my part.
> > > >     It does not imply that I would undertake any similar 
> action 
> > in 
> > > the 
> > > >     future or that I have any defined role or authority 
within 
> > the 
> > > group.
> > > > 
> > > >     Thanks for your consideration of my proposals.
> > > > 
> > > >     BrianB2.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>







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