Hello, All problems you raised are now fixed in AmiBroker 5.13 BETA:
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta-released/ Best regards, Tomasz Janeczko amibroker.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs... > Thank you all for the many responses that made this thread a good > exchange of ideas well beyond the original post. I especially want to > thank Tomasz for his responses and for taking the time to carefully > consider the issues presented and for taking action on the items he > decided were important. > > The area of drawing tools enhancements seems to have sparked interest > in a number of people on this thread, and also from private messages > to me. Perhaps Tomasz will address enhancing this area as part of the > AB roadmap for future releases based on suggestions made by users who > are familiar with useful drawing tools in other programs, or perhaps > through the plug-in or enhanced AFL routes suggested here. Whatever > the means, drawing studies are important for some types of trading > that AmiBroker is also suited to do. Especially to hybrid methods > that combine AFL and studies. Most traders have incredible high speed > pattern recognition engines connected directly to their eyes. 8^) > > Best regards, > Dennis > > > On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:20 PM, tradinghumble wrote: > >> Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. Although AB >> has been advancing in the system development arena the basic charting >> and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not >> received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but would >> rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing. >> >> -- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board (paid >>> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every month >>> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two posters >>> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they >>> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because they made >>> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two who make >>> the board a better place to hang out. >>> >>> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, an honor >>> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month added to >>> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the service. >>> >>> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to the work >>> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their peers and >>> the company that is well received. Others who received votes are >>> also >>> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners. >>> >>> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they receive and >>> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could encourage just >>> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth considering >>> IMHO. >>> >>> BR, >>> Dennis >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did with >>>> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software >>>> and >>>> the knowledge. >>>> >>>> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real >>>> through a >>>> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the >>>> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex >>>> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level brains. >>>> >>>> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active >>>> helpers. He will save time and gain money. >>>> >>>> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved >>>> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well. >>>> >>>> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly >>>> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Friends, >>>>> >>>>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use >>>>> only >>>>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade >>>>> only >>>>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems >>>>> just >>>>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the >>>>> traditional >>>>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers. >>>>> >>>>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a >>>>> very >>>>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting >>>>> programs. >>>>> >>>>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I >>>>> think >>>>> potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation >>>>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this >>>>> product >>>>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In >>>>> fact, I >>>>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same >>>>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB >>>>> would >>>>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been >>>>> going >>>>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. >>>>> >>>>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the >>>>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me >>>>> when >>>>> they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I >>>>> have >>>>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while >>>>> -- >>>>> hoping these things would be fixed first. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same >>>>> bugs, >>>>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows >>>>> that >>>>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher >>>>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly. >>>>> >>>>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on >>>>> the >>>>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that >>>>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation >>>>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration >>>>> and >>>>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the >>>>> line >>>>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the >>>>> trigger >>>>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are costing >>>>> you >>>>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them >>>>> to >>>>> the conversation. >>>>> >>>>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. Often >>>>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points. >>>>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common >>>>> pivot >>>>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more >>>>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is >>>>> easy >>>>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is >>>>> unique, >>>>> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any >>>>> other >>>>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the >>>>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study >>>>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will >>>>> grab >>>>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un- >>>>> select >>>>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead. >>>>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the >>>>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its >>>>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very frustrating >>>>> and >>>>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading action. >>>>> >>>>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The >>>>> horizontal >>>>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on. >>>>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on >>>>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the >>>>> left >>>>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes >>>>> errors >>>>> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely >>>>> unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>> >>>>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have the >>>>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two >>>>> peaks. >>>>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand >>>>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced >>>>> to a >>>>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak >>>>> (this >>>>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that >>>>> is >>>>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak >>>>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line >>>>> to >>>>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up >>>>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place >>>>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>> >>>>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, >>>>> there >>>>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the >>>>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets >>>>> moved >>>>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This >>>>> wastes >>>>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong >>>>> bar >>>>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. >>>>> This >>>>> is an annoyance. >>>>> >>>>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend >>>>> lines >>>>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute >>>>> view, >>>>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven >>>>> help >>>>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these >>>>> wrong bars. >>>>> >>>>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues >>>>> affect >>>>> you. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>>> >>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>> >>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>>> >>>> For other support material please check also: >>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>>> Yahoo! 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