Yes, I second Dennis sentiment. This is excellent, and I am very grateful for this fix. Best regards / JM
_____ Från: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Dennis Brown Skickat: den 27 juni 2008 16:50 Till: [email protected] Ämne: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs... Tomasz, WOW!!! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I could not wait, and shut down my trading to load the new version. I tested out all these issues on my system and as you say, all are fixed --even the ones that were hard to replicate. Not only that, but you, also went beyond and added the magnet toggle key feature. I did not think of that one, but in using it just now, it greatly enhances the ease of drawing studies. Simple studies in AB have gone from a frustration to a dream for me in the last hour. Now I can draw studies quickly and accurately while trading --and I don't need a second program to do it. I have no reservations in recommending AB to my trader friends who rely on studies now. THANK YOU! Dennis :-))))))))) On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > Hello, > > All problems you raised are now fixed in AmiBroker 5.13 BETA: > > http://www.amibroke <http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta-released/> r.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta-released/ > > Best regards, > Tomasz Janeczko > amibroker.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:see3d%40writeme.com> com> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:28 AM > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs... > > >> Thank you all for the many responses that made this thread a good >> exchange of ideas well beyond the original post. I especially want >> to >> thank Tomasz for his responses and for taking the time to carefully >> consider the issues presented and for taking action on the items he >> decided were important. >> >> The area of drawing tools enhancements seems to have sparked interest >> in a number of people on this thread, and also from private messages >> to me. Perhaps Tomasz will address enhancing this area as part of >> the >> AB roadmap for future releases based on suggestions made by users who >> are familiar with useful drawing tools in other programs, or perhaps >> through the plug-in or enhanced AFL routes suggested here. Whatever >> the means, drawing studies are important for some types of trading >> that AmiBroker is also suited to do. Especially to hybrid methods >> that combine AFL and studies. Most traders have incredible high >> speed >> pattern recognition engines connected directly to their eyes. 8^) >> >> Best regards, >> Dennis >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:20 PM, tradinghumble wrote: >> >>> Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. Although AB >>> has been advancing in the system development arena the basic >>> charting >>> and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not >>> received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but would >>> rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing. >>> >>> -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board (paid >>>> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every month >>>> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two >>>> posters >>>> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they >>>> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because they >>>> made >>>> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two who >>>> make >>>> the board a better place to hang out. >>>> >>>> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, an >>>> honor >>>> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month added to >>>> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the >>>> service. >>>> >>>> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to the >>>> work >>>> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their peers and >>>> the company that is well received. Others who received votes are >>>> also >>>> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners. >>>> >>>> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they receive >>>> and >>>> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could encourage >>>> just >>>> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth considering >>>> IMHO. >>>> >>>> BR, >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did >>>>> with >>>>> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software >>>>> and >>>>> the knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real >>>>> through a >>>>> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the >>>>> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex >>>>> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level >>>>> brains. >>>>> >>>>> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active >>>>> helpers. He will save time and gain money. >>>>> >>>>> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved >>>>> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well. >>>>> >>>>> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly >>>>> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use >>>>>> only >>>>>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade >>>>>> only >>>>>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems >>>>>> just >>>>>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the >>>>>> traditional >>>>>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a >>>>>> very >>>>>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting >>>>>> programs. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I >>>>>> think >>>>>> potentially better), the interface (either design or >>>>>> implementation >>>>>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this >>>>>> product >>>>>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In >>>>>> fact, I >>>>>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same >>>>>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB >>>>>> would >>>>>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been >>>>>> going >>>>>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in >>>>>> the >>>>>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me >>>>>> when >>>>>> they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I >>>>>> have >>>>>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while >>>>>> -- >>>>>> hoping these things would be fixed first. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same >>>>>> bugs, >>>>>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows >>>>>> that >>>>>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher >>>>>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on >>>>>> the >>>>>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones >>>>>> that >>>>>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple >>>>>> operation >>>>>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration >>>>>> and >>>>>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the >>>>>> line >>>>>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the >>>>>> trigger >>>>>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are >>>>>> costing >>>>>> you >>>>>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them >>>>>> to >>>>>> the conversation. >>>>>> >>>>>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. >>>>>> Often >>>>>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points. >>>>>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common >>>>>> pivot >>>>>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more >>>>>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is >>>>>> easy >>>>>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is >>>>>> unique, >>>>>> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any >>>>>> other >>>>>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the >>>>>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study >>>>>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will >>>>>> grab >>>>>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un- >>>>>> select >>>>>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it >>>>>> instead. >>>>>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab >>>>>> the >>>>>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its >>>>>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very >>>>>> frustrating >>>>>> and >>>>>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading action. >>>>>> >>>>>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The >>>>>> horizontal >>>>>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode >>>>>> on. >>>>>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you >>>>>> click on >>>>>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the >>>>>> left >>>>>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes >>>>>> errors >>>>>> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely >>>>>> unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>> >>>>>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have >>>>>> the >>>>>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two >>>>>> peaks. >>>>>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right >>>>>> hand >>>>>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced >>>>>> to a >>>>>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak >>>>>> (this >>>>>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that >>>>>> is >>>>>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the >>>>>> peak >>>>>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line >>>>>> to >>>>>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up >>>>>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong >>>>>> place >>>>>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>> >>>>>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, >>>>>> there >>>>>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the >>>>>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets >>>>>> moved >>>>>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This >>>>>> wastes >>>>>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which >>>>>> wrong >>>>>> bar >>>>>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. >>>>>> This >>>>>> is an annoyance. >>>>>> >>>>>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend >>>>>> lines >>>>>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute >>>>>> view, >>>>>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven >>>>>> help >>>>>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to >>>>>> these >>>>>> wrong bars. >>>>>> >>>>>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues >>>>>> affect >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>>>> >>>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>>> >>>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>>>> http://www.amibroke <http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/> r.com/devlog/ >>>>> >>>>> For other support material please check also: >>>>> http://www.amibroke <http://www.amibroker.com/support.html> r.com/support.html >>>>> Yahoo! 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