Brian, LOL
I don't like to "complain" -- just helpful feedback I hope. Today I was able to trade off only one chart. I was able to draw and adjust studies four times faster and more accurately, which helped my trading performance in a big way. I am lightening fast on the draw now. Don't challenge me to a dual if you want to stay solvent! ;-) Best regards, Dennis On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:48 AM, brian_z111 wrote: > Tomasz, > > Thanks for putting a smile on Dennis's face. > > > Dennis, > > You don't get to complain about anything again, not until after we > have all had our turn - all 7000 of us :-) > > > brian_z > > > > --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Tomasz, >> >> WOW!!! >> >> THANK YOU! >> THANK YOU! >> THANK YOU! >> >> I could not wait, and shut down my trading to load the new version. >> I tested out all these issues on my system and as you say, all are >> fixed --even the ones that were hard to replicate. >> >> Not only that, but you, also went beyond and added the magnet > toggle >> key feature. I did not think of that one, but in using it just > now, >> it greatly enhances the ease of drawing studies. >> >> Simple studies in AB have gone from a frustration to a dream for me > in >> the last hour. Now I can draw studies quickly and accurately > while >> trading --and I don't need a second program to do it. I have no >> reservations in recommending AB to my trader friends who rely on >> studies now. >> >> THANK YOU! >> >> Dennis :-))))))))) >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> All problems you raised are now fixed in AmiBroker 5.13 BETA: >>> >>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta- > released/ >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Tomasz Janeczko >>> amibroker.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:28 AM >>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs... >>> >>> >>>> Thank you all for the many responses that made this thread a good >>>> exchange of ideas well beyond the original post. I especially > want >>>> to >>>> thank Tomasz for his responses and for taking the time to > carefully >>>> consider the issues presented and for taking action on the items > he >>>> decided were important. >>>> >>>> The area of drawing tools enhancements seems to have sparked > interest >>>> in a number of people on this thread, and also from private > messages >>>> to me. Perhaps Tomasz will address enhancing this area as part > of >>>> the >>>> AB roadmap for future releases based on suggestions made by > users who >>>> are familiar with useful drawing tools in other programs, or > perhaps >>>> through the plug-in or enhanced AFL routes suggested here. > Whatever >>>> the means, drawing studies are important for some types of > trading >>>> that AmiBroker is also suited to do. Especially to hybrid > methods >>>> that combine AFL and studies. Most traders have incredible > high >>>> speed >>>> pattern recognition engines connected directly to their eyes. > 8^) >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:20 PM, tradinghumble wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. > Although AB >>>>> has been advancing in the system development arena the basic >>>>> charting >>>>> and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not >>>>> received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but > would >>>>> rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing. >>>>> >>>>> -- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board > (paid >>>>>> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every > month >>>>>> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two >>>>>> posters >>>>>> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they >>>>>> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because > they >>>>>> made >>>>>> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two > who >>>>>> make >>>>>> the board a better place to hang out. >>>>>> >>>>>> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, > an >>>>>> honor >>>>>> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month > added to >>>>>> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the >>>>>> service. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to > the >>>>>> work >>>>>> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their > peers and >>>>>> the company that is well received. Others who received votes > are >>>>>> also >>>>>> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they > receive >>>>>> and >>>>>> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could > encourage >>>>>> just >>>>>> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth > considering >>>>>> IMHO. >>>>>> >>>>>> BR, >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft > did >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a > software >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the knowledge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real >>>>>>> through a >>>>>>> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the >>>>>>> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only > complex >>>>>>> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level >>>>>>> brains. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most > active >>>>>>> helpers. He will save time and gain money. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round > unsolved >>>>>>> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly >>>>>>> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I > use >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I > trade >>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading > systems >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the >>>>>>>> traditional >>>>>>>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions > as a >>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other > charting >>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there > (and I >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>> potentially better), the interface (either design or >>>>>>>> implementation >>>>>>>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use > this >>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In >>>>>>>> fact, I >>>>>>>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the > same >>>>>>>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even > though AB >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has > been >>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB > in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say > to me >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> they figure out that these basic features don't work > properly. I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a > while >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> hoping these things would be fixed first. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the > same >>>>>>>> bugs, >>>>>>>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz > knows >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some > higher >>>>>>>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are > others on >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the > ones >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple >>>>>>>> operation >>>>>>>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates > frustration >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes > the >>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the >>>>>>>> trigger >>>>>>>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are >>>>>>>> costing >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add > them >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the conversation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not > respected. >>>>>>>> Often >>>>>>>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot > points. >>>>>>>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a > common >>>>>>>> pivot >>>>>>>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become > more >>>>>>>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. > It is >>>>>>>> easy >>>>>>>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it > is >>>>>>>> unique, >>>>>>>> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike > any >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on > the >>>>>>>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other > study >>>>>>>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB > will >>>>>>>> grab >>>>>>>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will > un- >>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it >>>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to > grab >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from > its >>>>>>>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very >>>>>>>> frustrating >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading > action. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The >>>>>>>> horizontal >>>>>>>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet > mode >>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you >>>>>>>> click on >>>>>>>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar > on the >>>>>>>> left >>>>>>>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes >>>>>>>> errors >>>>>>>> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely >>>>>>>> unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you > have >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between > two >>>>>>>> peaks. >>>>>>>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the > right >>>>>>>> hand >>>>>>>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have > advanced >>>>>>>> to a >>>>>>>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new > peak >>>>>>>> (this >>>>>>>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle > that >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on > the >>>>>>>> peak >>>>>>>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend > line >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you > end up >>>>>>>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the > wrong >>>>>>>> place >>>>>>>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a > study, >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have > dragged the >>>>>>>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study > gets >>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. > This >>>>>>>> wastes >>>>>>>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out > which >>>>>>>> wrong >>>>>>>> bar >>>>>>>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want > it. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> is an annoyance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw > trend >>>>>>>> lines >>>>>>>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 > minute >>>>>>>> view, >>>>>>>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And > heaven >>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap > to >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> wrong bars. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these > issues >>>>>>>> affect >>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users > only. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly > to >>>>>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check > DEVLOG: >>>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For other support material please check also: >>>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>>>>>> Yahoo! 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