You are very welcome Dennis. Best regards, Tomasz Janeczko amibroker.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs...
> Tomasz, > > WOW!!! > > THANK YOU! > THANK YOU! > THANK YOU! > > I could not wait, and shut down my trading to load the new version. > I tested out all these issues on my system and as you say, all are > fixed --even the ones that were hard to replicate. > > Not only that, but you, also went beyond and added the magnet toggle > key feature. I did not think of that one, but in using it just now, > it greatly enhances the ease of drawing studies. > > Simple studies in AB have gone from a frustration to a dream for me in > the last hour. Now I can draw studies quickly and accurately while > trading --and I don't need a second program to do it. I have no > reservations in recommending AB to my trader friends who rely on > studies now. > > THANK YOU! > > Dennis :-))))))))) > > > On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> All problems you raised are now fixed in AmiBroker 5.13 BETA: >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta-released/ >> >> Best regards, >> Tomasz Janeczko >> amibroker.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dennis Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:28 AM >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs... >> >> >>> Thank you all for the many responses that made this thread a good >>> exchange of ideas well beyond the original post. I especially want >>> to >>> thank Tomasz for his responses and for taking the time to carefully >>> consider the issues presented and for taking action on the items he >>> decided were important. >>> >>> The area of drawing tools enhancements seems to have sparked interest >>> in a number of people on this thread, and also from private messages >>> to me. Perhaps Tomasz will address enhancing this area as part of >>> the >>> AB roadmap for future releases based on suggestions made by users who >>> are familiar with useful drawing tools in other programs, or perhaps >>> through the plug-in or enhanced AFL routes suggested here. Whatever >>> the means, drawing studies are important for some types of trading >>> that AmiBroker is also suited to do. Especially to hybrid methods >>> that combine AFL and studies. Most traders have incredible high >>> speed >>> pattern recognition engines connected directly to their eyes. 8^) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:20 PM, tradinghumble wrote: >>> >>>> Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. Although AB >>>> has been advancing in the system development arena the basic >>>> charting >>>> and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not >>>> received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but would >>>> rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing. >>>> >>>> -- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board (paid >>>>> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every month >>>>> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two >>>>> posters >>>>> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they >>>>> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because they >>>>> made >>>>> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two who >>>>> make >>>>> the board a better place to hang out. >>>>> >>>>> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, an >>>>> honor >>>>> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month added to >>>>> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the >>>>> service. >>>>> >>>>> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to the >>>>> work >>>>> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their peers and >>>>> the company that is well received. Others who received votes are >>>>> also >>>>> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners. >>>>> >>>>> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they receive >>>>> and >>>>> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could encourage >>>>> just >>>>> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth considering >>>>> IMHO. >>>>> >>>>> BR, >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did >>>>>> with >>>>>> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software >>>>>> and >>>>>> the knowledge. >>>>>> >>>>>> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real >>>>>> through a >>>>>> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the >>>>>> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex >>>>>> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level >>>>>> brains. >>>>>> >>>>>> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active >>>>>> helpers. He will save time and gain money. >>>>>> >>>>>> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved >>>>>> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly >>>>>> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Friends, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the >>>>>>> traditional >>>>>>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting >>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> potentially better), the interface (either design or >>>>>>> implementation >>>>>>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this >>>>>>> product >>>>>>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In >>>>>>> fact, I >>>>>>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same >>>>>>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> hoping these things would be fixed first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same >>>>>>> bugs, >>>>>>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher >>>>>>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple >>>>>>> operation >>>>>>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the >>>>>>> line >>>>>>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the >>>>>>> trigger >>>>>>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are >>>>>>> costing >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the conversation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. >>>>>>> Often >>>>>>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points. >>>>>>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common >>>>>>> pivot >>>>>>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more >>>>>>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is >>>>>>> easy >>>>>>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is >>>>>>> unique, >>>>>>> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the >>>>>>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study >>>>>>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will >>>>>>> grab >>>>>>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un- >>>>>>> select >>>>>>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it >>>>>>> instead. >>>>>>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its >>>>>>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very >>>>>>> frustrating >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading action. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The >>>>>>> horizontal >>>>>>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode >>>>>>> on. >>>>>>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you >>>>>>> click on >>>>>>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the >>>>>>> left >>>>>>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes >>>>>>> errors >>>>>>> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely >>>>>>> unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two >>>>>>> peaks. >>>>>>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right >>>>>>> hand >>>>>>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced >>>>>>> to a >>>>>>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak >>>>>>> (this >>>>>>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the >>>>>>> peak >>>>>>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up >>>>>>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, >>>>>>> there >>>>>>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the >>>>>>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets >>>>>>> moved >>>>>>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This >>>>>>> wastes >>>>>>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which >>>>>>> wrong >>>>>>> bar >>>>>>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is an annoyance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend >>>>>>> lines >>>>>>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute >>>>>>> view, >>>>>>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven >>>>>>> help >>>>>>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> wrong bars. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues >>>>>>> affect >>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>>>>> >>>>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>>>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>>>> >>>>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For other support material please check also: >>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>>> >>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>>> >>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>>> >>>> For other support material please check also: >>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> >>> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >>> >>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >>> >>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >>> >>> For other support material please check also: >>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com >> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ >> >> For other support material please check also: >> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > Please note that this group is for discussion between users only. > > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com > > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG: > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/ > > For other support material please check also: > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
