+1

It's a major point. How to find something that you don't know the name
or don't ever know it exist ! Or if it's a generic name with thousands
of entries.

I saw with Excel user's list that when the simple examples are at a
precise place, it is easier to give educational support to beginners.

The beginner wants to have results at once. He searches into help
manual and find a programmer help. That is useless for non programmer,
it takes time to use this help.

With 3 or 4 lines of code a "takeaway" example is a good tutorial.

Best Regards




--- In [email protected], "progster01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> 
> >When I first started, I did not know what to call things, 
> >so most of my searches failed.  
> 
> Ha!  I can relate to that!
> 
> Sometimes people may find it easier to dash off a quick question to
> the list than to troll deeply through the several possible references
> available.
> 
> I always try to keep in mind that, in general, if the person knew
> where to find the answer, they would go right to it.  But, until a
> more thorough acclimation takes place, newbies don't know where to look.
> 
> IMO, it's not realistic to expect every poster to have spent a few
> months getting deeply familiar with the reference material.  Even
> those who have spent significant time with the reference material may
> still need a bit of "extra" or "different" explanation/example before
> the light comes on for any particular topic.
> 
> A quick question may deserve a quick answer:  
> 
> "Try reading this page or topic and see if that helps."
> 
> And what is wrong with that?  (nothing, IMO)
> 
> If a person more experienced with the product and the docs can direct
> someone to where the answer exists, it only takes a moment, and that
> moment could substitute for hours of (fruitless?) searching on the
> questioner's part.
> 
> Clearly some people form an opinion along the lines of:
> 
> "Oh come on, that's so obvious, and it's RIGHT THERE IN THE DOCS"
> 
> Well, maybe (and perhaps definitely!).  OK, so just don't answer that
> poster.  Don't let it get to you!  Either someone else will answer
> (question posed, question answered, no nick on you!), or the poster
> will email support or figure it out themselves eventually.
> 
> Civility (or refraining from incivility) helps the list, lack of
> civility hurts it (IMO).
> 
> Posing a simple or "obvious" question is not "lack of civility" (IMO).
> 
> BTW, "It's in the docs" is not a very helpful answer (to the
> questioner or the list).
> 
> "I think what you are looking for is in the docs, HERE" is a very
> helpful answer, and if more people who are capable of this answer
> would step up to it then TJ would not have to!
>


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