Hi Thomas
On 15-Mar-00, you wrote:
>> One of the major (IMO) annoyances of the IRC protocol is the necessity
>> of treating actions as CTCPs. This leads to a ton of problems on *all*
>> IRC clients when you want to treat actions like public messages (or
>> when you want to treat /describes as /msgs). I wish the IRC protocol
>> would change so that /me would be somehow rolled into public messages
>> and behave exactly in same ways, and /describes would be rolled into
>> /msgs somehow and behave exactly in the same ways. This, IMO, would
>> make things a lot easier, at least the way I tend to use IRC.
I cant think of a better way to implement /ME than CTCP ACTION, it's
basically up to the client author to display them the way the user
wants it. :)
> Well, actions have nothing to do with CTCP's at all.
Yes they do, ACTION's are normal CTCP commands (they have no REPLY though).
> An Action ie /ME blah is a PRIVMSG (/MSG).
All CTCP queries are PRIVMSG's, and CTCP replies are NOTICE's.
> /DESCRIBE in query windows etc should be essential the same. If AmIRC
> filters these on a CTCP ignore its AmIRC that handles it wrong.
/DESCRIBE = ACTION (/ME) sent in a PRIVMSG to a user, instead of a channel.
AmIRC is not handling it wrong, since it's sent as a normal CTCP command,
but I agree, AmIRC should seperate ACTION's from normal CTCP commands.
> /ME is simply an alias for /PRIVMSG #SomeChannel :ACTION the action. The
> only difference between a regular privmsg and /me is that you also need to
> control chars in there.
>
> /PRIVMSG #SomeChannel :(CTRL+A)ACTION the action.(CTRL+A)
^A (\001) is the control character for CTCP commands.
> So actions are not CTCP's and are not treated as CTCP's.
They are CTCP commands, and are therefore handled like a all other CTCP
command.
> So what im saying is that there should be no problem making this work. Ive
> been annoyed a few times about AmIRC not treating DESCRIBE as a message to
> you so it wont open a query window if you have it set to open on messages
> to you.
Yeah, should be pretty easy to filter CTCP ACTION seperately from the other
CTCP commands.
> Anyhows i'll stop rambling now.
Same here ;)
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