I like the idea, but I don't like the fact that we would loose the inline spaces info, it was a good feature and I'm sure (even the poll says so) that many people will like that better. I wanted to talk with you on msn about this to make sure I'm not saying things wrong, but I'll try to give my 2 cents here and now. I think the ccard mockup you put was great and I like it like that, but as a ccard, nothing more. I agree that there are too many informational windows, but I don't think too many is bad, too little or too exploded is bad, if it's the same info, shown differently, it's ok. the ccard should have : nick,psm,,dp,blog info. No need for more info. in the mockup, you left the two arrows to 'switch ccard'. I always thought the idea of 'switching the ccard' was stupid and I would have voted to remove it and leave just a single window, not a double sided window. I don't know if you'd like this idea but I'll tell anyway, how about all those 'extra' informations be put in the reverse side of the ccard, like the phone numbers, last login, last message, client id, etc.. that's optional, it can be left out, but I'm just trying to follow your idea of "all the info in the same place". My opinion is that the properties window should NOT disappear, it's a nice window with many useful information about a user, and with its multiple tabs we can get access to the alarm settings, previous DPs and customize the user, nickname/psm/color/dp some advanced otpions, move him from groups, etc.. it's useful I think. My original idea, and I just found out that WLM does kind of the same (a bit differently though). My idea was to have the ccard as ou had it in the 'std' mockup, and have, instead of the 'advanced' button you had, have a "Edit contact" which would open the properties window. I think, with NWM's mockup, a "More info" button would also be suitable. In WLM, it's acutally a pencil icon and only in the reverse side of the ccard, and it's tooltip says "edit this contact's information" which opens up some kind of properties window, where you can enter name/address/phones/nickname/website/birthdays/etc.. and a 'notes' tab :s
So this is my 2 cents. a button to open the properties window is good, the 'advanced' idea is also good but I wouldn't want to put too much info in that single window. KaKaRoTo On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 05:57:46PM +0100, Karel Demeyer wrote: > 2007/1/30, Cristofaro Del Prete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > My 0.02: > > > > Karel Demeyer ha scritto: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm working on a UI proposal for the ccard's/properties window. > > > Firstly I want to make some things clear: > > > * this proposal gets rid of "inline" ccards, they were (imo) a nice > > > idea UI-wise to show the data but we have more data to show and we > > > should make it all a bit more clear and easier. > > > * this proposal mostly works like the way youness implemented the > > > ccards but tries to make the ccards more in a general "user properties > > > screen" > > > > > > So, what do I propose: When a buddy icon is clicked, a ccard pops up, > > > where it should pop up should be thought about as it is important > > > interface-wise. A mockup for this ccard is in attachement. This > > > ccard already shows a bit more data then WLM's; it shows the email > > > addres, a button to change notes, a button to change alarms, an > > > "advanced" button .... > > > like we have now in the properties screen, everything on this ccard > > > should have a right-click menu where one can choose "copy to > > > clipboard". For the nickname, psm and display picture, there should > > > be a "options" menu-item, clicking this opens another window where > > > onne can set custom DPs, or custom nicknames, custom color of a > > > nickname etc... > > > > > > Clicking the advanced button makes the window in what I have in my > > > other mockup. Firstly, it adds 3 "edit" buttons, one after nickname, > > > psm, and one hovered on a corner op the dp. Clicking those buttons > > > does the same as rightclicking the items and choosing "options". > > > Another thing that happens when you click the "advanced" button (the > > > button should stay pressed then), is the window growing bigger. The > > > window should then show firstly some extra data of the user, and then > > > allow for some other settings that are special for that user. This > > > extra space will probably be a TK frame so it won't have that nice > > > background, but that's not such a problem. I didn't add all options > > > on my mockup, but you can check our properties window now to see what > > > is needed. > > > > I don't think the contact card should be used to show advanced infos, or > > to edit settings. I think it would be better to just have a > > "preferences" button, in the left-bottom corner of the ccard, that would > > open the user properties windows. > > This way there would be fast access to the advanced info (they are in > > the first tab), as well as *all* the user settings, instead of just few > > of them. > The thing that I try is to put all the settings there in teh expanded > ccard so we won't need a properties screen anymore. Everyhting should > be on teh ccard or a window openened with a button on the expanded > ccard. > > > > > > Why do I propose this ? Well, we have to much different ways to show > > > user data: I wanted to add inline spaces data (ok, my bad), we will > > > have ccards, we have a properties window and we have a tooltip... this > > > should be reduced imo. I think the tooltip has too much information > > > right now. It should have dp/nick/psm/music and not more I guess. > > > > I'd also add the contact status, because, when using the small display > > pictures in place of the contact icon, it can be difficult to see if a > > contact is online or offline. > Well, overlaying a status-icon on the ccard's DP should do this. But > this should also be fixed in teh new CL. sthe status icons should be > overlayed on the buddy icon, so when the buddyicon is changed into a > dp, there should still be a status emblem. > > > > > About this proposal, nick/psm are truncated but they should have a > > > tooltip with the full string. > > > > > > My question now: what's your opinion about this ? What would you like > > > differently ? ... > > > > > > Karel. > > > > > > PS: I don't have much time now but I did this as a spare time project > > > between my study-hours; If I don't respond to e-mail quickly, it > > > doesn't mean I'm not interested in your replies thus. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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