oh and btw. The issue you found on the forum (good thing you searched) should 
be 'dropped' (although you found other 
things related to it like the bug report when dropping to no group) because you 
don't have much information on what the 
issue is exactly. 
If you want a TODO, I have around 50 permenently opened tabs on the forums to 
keep track of anything I should follow up 
(like patches, or bugs reported or feature suggestions that I think should be 
looked into, etc...). 
So if you need anything to do, just ask me, I can send you :
1 - either each link one by one :(
2 - my saved .session file from opera, so you can just open opera (if you don't 
mind installing it) and do a 'open 
session' to get all my tabs opened in a new window.
3 - select one or two interesting ones and send the links.

KaKaRoTo


On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:48:02AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> Indeed. Just so you know (in case you didn't realize it, but I think you 
> did). The 'no group' is a virtual group 
> (just like online/offline/mobile groups). It isn't listed as a group when we 
> fetch the contact list. In WLM, the 
> 'no group' doesn't appear, instead you have users on the top of the CL 
> without appearing inside a group (this 
> means you can't "collapse" the users who aren't in a group). The only way to 
> put a user in 'no group' is to 
> remove it from all groups. To delete a user, we remove it from all groups, it 
> becomes part of 'no group' then we 
> have to remove it from the 'no group' virtual group for the user to be 
> deleted from our CL.
> Humm.. I just tried in WLM and it seems they changed it a bit, now users in 
> 'no group' aren't appearing in the 
> root of the CL, they actually appear in a "Other contacts" group under all 
> other groups (instead of being on 
> the top like before). If you have the option 'group contacts offline' (our 
> hybrid mode), then the 'other 
> contacts' group is under the 'offline' group. In WLM, there is no such thing 
> as 'move contact to 'other 
> contacts' group, and there is no such thing as 'remove from all groups', but 
> there is the contextual menu :
> group options -> copy contact to               -> group1
>                                                   group1
>                                                   etc..
>                  move contact to               -> group1
>                                                   group2
>                                                   etc..
>                  remove contact from group
> The 'group options' don't appear if you sort by status. 
> The 'remove contact from group' removes the user from the current group (in 
> which you right clicked the 
> contact).
> The 'remove contact from group' doesn't appear if the user is in 'other 
> contacts'.
> If you have a user in multiple groups you have to "remove contact from group" 
> from all the groups in order for 
> it to go to 'other contacts'.
> As much as you can't drop a user to the 'offline' group, you also can't drop 
> a user to the 'other contacts' (so 
> you can't drag/drop a contact to 'no group' which would remove him from all 
> other groups).
> 
> That being said, I don't know what the solution with amsn should be. Right 
> now, if we drop a user to 'no group', 
> we get a bug report (because we send the ADC moving the contact to group '0' 
> (which is no group) and the server 
> responds with a 403 error, which we don't check (we do a [lindex $response X] 
> to get the group id to which the 
> user got moved to, and then we check the variable list_$group or something, 
> so if $group is empty, we get an 
> error because $list_ doesn't exist. we should check if [lindex $response 0] 
> is ADC or an error message to make 
> sure we don't 'handle' the ADC in the wrong way.
> 
> I think dropping should be disabled for no group (as well as mobile and 
> offline) and maybe just allow the 
> 'delete from group' instead of only 'delete'. But I don't see why a user 
> would want to put a contact in no 
> group, if he wants, he can create a group named "other contacts" or "no 
> group" or whatever, and move the contact 
> there. the 'no group' should be used ONLY when adding a new user, then once 
> you move it to a proper group, it 
> should stay in a 'valid' group. That's the purpose of 'no group' in my 
> opinion. I might be wrong though.
> 
> So.. solution would be to disable drag/drop to no group, and leave the 
> behavior as it is, if we want to allow 
> users to move to no group, then the 'delete from group' method used by WLM 
> would be the way to go.
> What do you think ?
> 
> p.s. : sorry for the YAHEFY (yet another huge email from Youness :p).
> 
> kaKaRoTo
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:31:36PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote:
> > I think the second way is the best. However, when a contact is  
> > dragged to No Group, and actually the contact is in multiple groups,  
> > then the user should be warned that moving a contact to No Group will  
> > remove it from any group it was in, and not just the group it was  
> > dragged from.
> > 
> > Harry
> > 
> > Op 1-jun-2007, om 13:19 heeft Mirko Hansen het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> > >Hi guys,
> > >
> > >I tried to fix the bug reported on http://www.amsn-project.net/ 
> > >forums/viewtopic.php?t=3418 and there I noticed that the group  
> > >handling is some kind of incomplete relating especially to the "no  
> > >group". To the user this group appears a normal group, although it  
> > >isn't, but the user doesn't even know. So I think the user should  
> > >be able to handle with this special group almost the same as with a  
> > >normal group. Drag & drop to this group is/was buggy (did it ever  
> > >work?), but I think it should work. WLM doesn't allow this, there  
> > >it's only possible to remove a contact from all groups by using the  
> > >right-click menu. So we have two possibilities: 1. behave the same  
> > >way as WLM, not allowing to drop the contact on "no group" or 2. we  
> > >allow it and remove the contact from all other groups if it is  
> > >dropped on the "no group". I think the easiest and for n00bs most  
> > >logical way is 2, even if it might be a little bit strange that  
> > >copies of the contact in other groups will be removed, too, if you  
> > >drop the contact in the "no group". And as a logical consequence I  
> > >would add the possibility to move a contact to "no group" from the  
> > >context menu. What do you think?
> > >The other way, if you think the way WLM handles this, is better, we  
> > >should add something like the "remove contact from all groups" to  
> > >the right-click menu, otherwise the user has no easy way to move a  
> > >contact from a group to the "no group".
> > >
> > >Bye,
> > >Mirko
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