Well, currently, if you press delete on a contact that is in several groups, it is deleted from the group where you clicked and not from all groups... Maybe we should change the menu entry according to the number of times a contact is present in the CL and if it is present more than once make menu entry appear like "Remove from this group" and avoid the delete window that ask us to block the contact... Phil
Mirko Hansen a écrit : > Right, it has to be 'remove from group', I shouldn't try to think when > I'm too tired ;) > I allowed myself to add it, I hope that was ok ... now group handling > should work as it should. :) > As a consequence of the new function, we should also change the bahavior > of the delete, shouldn't we? Actually it removes the contact only from > current group (exactly that what 'remove from group' does) with the only > difference that it deletes the contact from the last group instead of > "moving" to "no group". So I think delete should really *delete* the > contact (from all groups) and not only remove from current group. > > Mirko > > 2007/6/2, Harry Vennik < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > I think you're right Mirko, users don't think of it as a virtual > group. I have it that way myself: groups for 'aMSN', 'Colleagues', > 'Family', 'Friends', and anyone else, who is on my CL for some > reason, in 'No group'. So I think it might still be a good idea to > allow dragging to nogroup (post 0.97 of course, so just use Phil's > fix on branch). > > Anyway, we need a 'remove from group' (not a 'remove from all > groups', the user can delete the contact from different groups one > by one, a contact won't be in 10 groups at the same time, I suppose). > > And 'WLM behaves like that, so amsn should do, too.' is not much of > an argument in this case. We follow WLM's behavior roughly, but not > always exactly. The important thing is that WLM users that start > using aMSN, should feel very familiar with it right away. > > Harry > > > Op 1-jun-2007, om 22:21 heeft Mirko Hansen het volgende geschreven: > >> Yeah, right, it's a virtual group, but the user doesn't know. He >> sees the group like a normal group and I think most of them, if >> they use groups, try to handle with it like that. But ok, WLM >> behaves like that, so amsn should do, too. Anyway, moving back to >> "no group" should definitely be possible, so we should add a >> "remove from all groups" to the context menu. >> >> Mirko >> >> >> 2007/6/1, Youness Alaoui < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: >> >> Indeed. Just so you know (in case you didn't realize it, but I >> think you did). The 'no group' is a virtual group >> (just like online/offline/mobile groups). It isn't listed as a >> group when we fetch the contact list. In WLM, the >> 'no group' doesn't appear, instead you have users on the top >> of the CL without appearing inside a group (this >> means you can't "collapse" the users who aren't in a group). >> The only way to put a user in 'no group' is to >> remove it from all groups. To delete a user, we remove it from >> all groups, it becomes part of 'no group' then we >> have to remove it from the 'no group' virtual group for the >> user to be deleted from our CL. >> Humm.. I just tried in WLM and it seems they changed it a bit, >> now users in 'no group' aren't appearing in the >> root of the CL, they actually appear in a "Other contacts" >> group under all other groups (instead of being on >> the top like before). If you have the option 'group contacts >> offline' (our hybrid mode), then the 'other >> contacts' group is under the 'offline' group. In WLM, there is >> no such thing as 'move contact to 'other >> contacts' group, and there is no such thing as 'remove from >> all groups', but there is the contextual menu : >> group options -> copy contact to -> group1 >> group1 >> etc.. >> move contact to -> group1 >> group2 >> etc.. >> remove contact from group >> The 'group options' don't appear if you sort by status. >> The 'remove contact from group' removes the user from the >> current group (in which you right clicked the >> contact). >> The 'remove contact from group' doesn't appear if the user is >> in 'other contacts'. >> If you have a user in multiple groups you have to "remove >> contact from group" from all the groups in order for >> it to go to 'other contacts'. >> As much as you can't drop a user to the 'offline' group, you >> also can't drop a user to the 'other contacts' (so >> you can't drag/drop a contact to 'no group' which would remove >> him from all other groups). >> >> That being said, I don't know what the solution with amsn >> should be. Right now, if we drop a user to 'no group', >> we get a bug report (because we send the ADC moving the >> contact to group '0' (which is no group) and the server >> responds with a 403 error, which we don't check (we do a >> [lindex $response X] to get the group id to which the >> user got moved to, and then we check the variable list_$group >> or something, so if $group is empty, we get an >> error because $list_ doesn't exist. we should check if [lindex >> $response 0] is ADC or an error message to make >> sure we don't 'handle' the ADC in the wrong way. >> >> I think dropping should be disabled for no group (as well as >> mobile and offline) and maybe just allow the >> 'delete from group' instead of only 'delete'. But I don't see >> why a user would want to put a contact in no >> group, if he wants, he can create a group named "other >> contacts" or "no group" or whatever, and move the contact >> there. the 'no group' should be used ONLY when adding a new >> user, then once you move it to a proper group, it >> should stay in a 'valid' group. That's the purpose of 'no >> group' in my opinion. I might be wrong though. >> >> So.. solution would be to disable drag/drop to no group, and >> leave the behavior as it is, if we want to allow >> users to move to no group, then the 'delete from group' method >> used by WLM would be the way to go. >> What do you think ? >> >> p.s. : sorry for the YAHEFY (yet another huge email from >> Youness :p). >> >> kaKaRoTo >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 01:31:36PM +0200, Harry Vennik wrote: >> > I think the second way is the best. However, when a contact is >> > dragged to No Group, and actually the contact is in multiple >> groups, >> > then the user should be warned that moving a contact to No >> Group will >> > remove it from any group it was in, and not just the group it was >> > dragged from. >> > >> > Harry >> > >> > Op 1-jun-2007, om 13:19 heeft Mirko Hansen het volgende >> geschreven: >> > >> > >Hi guys, >> > > >> > >I tried to fix the bug reported on >> http://www.amsn-project.net/ <http://www.amsn-project.net/> >> > >forums/viewtopic.php?t=3418 and there I noticed that the group >> > >handling is some kind of incomplete relating especially to >> the "no >> > >group". To the user this group appears a normal group, >> although it >> > >isn't, but the user doesn't even know. So I think the user >> should >> > >be able to handle with this special group almost the same as >> with a >> > >normal group. Drag & drop to this group is/was buggy (did it >> ever >> > >work?), but I think it should work. WLM doesn't allow this, >> there >> > >it's only possible to remove a contact from all groups by >> using the >> > >right-click menu. So we have two possibilities: 1. behave >> the same >> > >way as WLM, not allowing to drop the contact on "no group" >> or 2. we >> > >allow it and remove the contact from all other groups if it is >> > >dropped on the "no group". I think the easiest and for n00bs >> most >> > >logical way is 2, even if it might be a little bit strange that >> > >copies of the contact in other groups will be removed, too, >> if you >> > >drop the contact in the "no group". And as a logical >> consequence I >> > >would add the possibility to move a contact to "no group" >> from the >> > >context menu. What do you think? >> > >The other way, if you think the way WLM handles this, is >> better, we >> > >should add something like the "remove contact from all >> groups" to >> > >the right-click menu, otherwise the user has no easy way to >> move a >> > >contact from a group to the "no group". >> > > >> > >Bye, >> > >Mirko >> > >> >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > >--- >> > >This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> > >Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and >> take >> > >control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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