2008/6/2 Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Humm.. it's a bit weird.. maybe more 'logical' but less intuitive for WLM
> users (don't forget that our purpose is to keep the same look&feel to ease
> the transition of WLM users).
> Also, the 'sort ascending' and 'sort descending' look like they would act
> on whatever the sorting is, while it should actually by 'sort alphabetically
> ascending' and 'sort alphabetically descending'. Also, for users with the
> same log size (mostly 0K), the 'sort alphabetically' would be important to
> keep... so we shouldn't have a radio button between the sort alphabetically
> and the sort by how much I talk to them...
> Also, I like the idea of "sort by log size" because it's clear, it says
> what it does, people won't get confused... while a user might say "why isn't
> it working" while he has logs disabled... logically, a 'sort by how much I
> talk to them' would mean that amsn would keep an internal counter on how
> many times we opened the chat window with that contact...
>
> what are your thoughts ?
That's true; I hadn't thought of if they had logs disabled. In that case the
option could be disabled or cause a popup that says 'to use this option you
need to have chat logs enabled. Click here to enable them' or something
friendly :) I just think that newnewbies with flick over it cause it sounds
technical. Although I suppose they probably wouldn't be sorting their
contacts :^). On second thought, I thinki it'd be just as good to say sort
by _chat log_ size instead of sort by _log_ size :) Again, just my loose
change ;) (I realise I lost all my rights to be listened to when I
disappeared for a year!)
>
> KaKaRoTo
>
> On 6/1/08, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Forgot the option how to sort groups. Here's the whole thing now: (for
>> info, check the other mail)
>>
>> Sort contacts =>
>> o Sort by status
>> o Sort by how much I talk to them
>> * Sort alfabetically
>> ------
>> * Sort ascending
>> o Sort descending
>> ------
>> [v]Use contactgroups
>> [v]Group offline contacts
>> [ ]Hide offline group
>> [v]Group non-IM contacts
>> [ ]Hide non-IM group
>> -------
>> Change appearance of contacts ...
>> -------
>> * Sort groups ascending
>> o Sort groups descending
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/6/1 Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/6/1 Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> How about a radical re-shuffle of the View menu?
>>>>
>>>> View =>
>>>> Sort groups by =>
>>>> Status
>>>> Groups
>>>> Hybridsort
>>>>
>>>
>>> How can you sort groups by status? They don't have a status themselves,
>>> right ?
>>>
>>> Sort contacts by =>
>>>> Ascending
>>>> Descending
>>>> ----------------
>>>> Status
>>>> How much I talk to them
>>>> Show as =>
>>>> Nickname
>>>> Email
>>>> Group contacts =>
>>>> Offline (IE. Hybrid)
>>>> Non-IM
>>>> Hide groups =>
>>>> Non-IM
>>>> Offline
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's too many submenu's this way IMHO. I cant recall what most
>>> guidelines say about this now but I think having a submenu for a choice
>>> between 2 things is "not done"
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Move "Change Global Nick" to Actions menu.
>>>>
>>> This is and should stay a "View" thing as it changes the "view" of the
>>> CL. The menu title is not "view" as in the verb.
>>>
>>>
>>> What about:
>>>
>>> Sort contacts =>
>>> o Sort by status
>>> o Sort by how much I talk to them
>>> * Sort alfabetically
>>> ------
>>> * Sort ascending
>>> o Sort descending
>>> ------
>>> [v]Use contactgroups
>>> [v]Group offline contacts
>>> [ ]Hide offline group
>>> [v]Group non-IM contacts
>>> [ ]Hide non-IM group
>>> Change appearance of contacts ...
>>> (clicking this pops up a window to change the "global nick" where you
>>>
>>> can alo choose to only show the email-adress)
>>>
>>> This way th "View" menu would only have 2 items, the first being that
>>> subenu. THe "o" and "*" are radio buttons where the latter is the default
>>> selected item. the "[ ]" and "[v]" are checkboxes where the latter is a
>>> default checked item.
>>>
>>> I don't have too much time for a lengthy discussion about this so if
>>> there's too much worng with this idea, just discard it. I hope it's well
>>> thought-out though :p.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Karel.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jun 2008, at 12:49, Karel Demeyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Another note: this wording is like what I was aming for in my other mail
>>>> :).
>>>> Sort contacts by:
>>>> group
>>>> status
>>>> hybrid
>>>> how much I talk to them
>>>>
>>>> If those native english speakers here (they all seem to be called "Tom"
>>>> somehow) could find anything shorter that says the same thing it would be
>>>> superb.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Karel.
>>>>
>>>> 2008/6/1 Tom Hennigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>
>>>>> How about: "Sort Contacts by how much I talk to them"
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a thought, if logging is disabled, then we don't have a record of
>>>>> how much people talk to them.. So the option won't do anything.. The menu
>>>>> item should not be there if logging isn't enabled (or at least
>>>>> disabled)...
>>>>> - Tom
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Jun 2008, at 11:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/6/1 Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> added the UI for.. anyone care to comment ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>> I'm hardly ever on msn anymore, but I noticed in the commit the lang
>>>>> key is 'Sort by log size' - I think 'Show people I talk to most first'
>>>>> but
>>>>> better worded would be good; this way newbies can see what the thing is...
>>>>> that way the command says _what_ it does, not _how_ it does it...make
>>>>> sense?
>>>>> Just my 2p!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 01:24:34AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote:
>>>>>> > Hello...
>>>>>> > I added a 'sort by log size' feature to aMSN.. question is..
>>>>>> > how should it be done in the UI to make it user-friendly.. I
>>>>>> > thought have the 'sort by log size' checkbox next to 'sort
>>>>>> > ascending' and 'sort descending' but those two act more like
>>>>>> > radio buttons than checkboxes, so adding a third,
>>>>>> > non-radio-like-behavior option would not fit...
>>>>>> > Karel.. any ideas ?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > KaKaRoTo
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Log Message:
>>>>>> > -----------
>>>>>> > New feature : sort by log size.. very nice to see the most often
>>>>>> talked to people at the top of your CL.
>>>>>> > enable-able with the console, GUI will come soon once we decide how
>>>>>> to put it nicely and 'user-friendly'...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Modified Paths:
>>>>>> > --------------
>>>>>> > trunk/amsn/config.tcl
>>>>>> > trunk/amsn/protocol.tcl
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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