Sure -- I need to send out an agenda for consolidated staff tomorrow, but
perhaps you and Kevin can share your experiences and talk about the dev
process and use of fab?

[Note -- we will have staff tomorrow]

-Toby

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Grace Gellerman <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> Should we talk more about this in our Research staff meeting on Tuesday?
>
> I agree that we need to figure out prioritization process first.  Also
> keeping two systems active could lead to requests going into two places
> which could affect the workflow of prioritization.
>
> I see the advantages to using Phab, but haste can sometimes, ya know, make
> waste.  So let's talk about this more...
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> To be clear - I do not want to move to Fabricator without reviewing our
>> prioritization process.
>>
>> Shall we make this a Q3 goal since people seem really into it?
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Oliver,
>>
>>    I'd like to give Phabricator a try. I suggest the following steps if
>> we decide to do it:
>>
>>    1. We block a 15-min team time in December during which R&D will play
>>    with Phabricator in https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ If we all feel
>>    reasonably comfortable, then,
>>    2. We switch to Phabricator in January, at the beginning of Q3, and
>>    we aim to try it for one quarter [1]. If it works, great, if not,
>>    3. We go back to Trello.
>>
>> Leila
>>
>> [1] During the quarter, we keep Trello but we don't update it. If we
>> figure out some time during the quarter that we can't work with Phabricator
>> at all, we switch back to Trello and all we need to do is to add Q3's tasks
>> back to it.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dan Andreescu <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So those are the reasons I have, off the top of my head. Other reasons?
>>>> Counter-arguments? Post em here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, Phabricator is a good tool, and great if it creates a single
>>> place where we manage our projects.
>>>
>>> It's not all great though.  Trello has a much more refined notification
>>> system and much prettier interface.  Mingle has more powerful queries,
>>> Asana is more to the point, etc.  We've been over these and decided as an
>>> organization to move towards Phabricator, I'm certainly not trying to dig
>>> up old wounds.  I do want to say though: bring those positive experiences
>>> when you switch from a system you like.  Because Phabricator is open source
>>> and the Facebook team that maintains it has been super friendly and helpful
>>> to us during our migration.  If we criticize it constructively, Phabricator
>>> will only get better.
>>>
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