Oh, the important nuances of the meeting schedule that I still need to learn! Thanks, Leila :)
Guess we'll be talking about Phab & how the Analytics Engineering team uses it at 7:30am. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Grace Gellerman < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I meant talking about Phab in R&D Staff at 1:30pm Pacific tomorrow, >> > > We haven't held the 1:30pm meeting when we've had combined staff meeting > once a month (shouldn't be in the calendar, but it is). > > Leila > > >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Sure -- I need to send out an agenda for consolidated staff tomorrow, >>> but perhaps you and Kevin can share your experiences and talk about the dev >>> process and use of fab? >>> >>> [Note -- we will have staff tomorrow] >>> >>> -Toby >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Grace Gellerman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should we talk more about this in our Research staff meeting on Tuesday? >>>> >>>> I agree that we need to figure out prioritization process first. Also >>>> keeping two systems active could lead to requests going into two places >>>> which could affect the workflow of prioritization. >>>> >>>> I see the advantages to using Phab, but haste can sometimes, ya know, >>>> make waste. So let's talk about this more... >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> To be clear - I do not want to move to Fabricator without reviewing >>>>> our prioritization process. >>>>> >>>>> Shall we make this a Q3 goal since people seem really into it? >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Oliver, >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to give Phabricator a try. I suggest the following steps >>>>> if we decide to do it: >>>>> >>>>> 1. We block a 15-min team time in December during which R&D will >>>>> play with Phabricator in https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ If we all >>>>> feel reasonably comfortable, then, >>>>> 2. We switch to Phabricator in January, at the beginning of Q3, >>>>> and we aim to try it for one quarter [1]. If it works, great, if not, >>>>> 3. We go back to Trello. >>>>> >>>>> Leila >>>>> >>>>> [1] During the quarter, we keep Trello but we don't update it. If we >>>>> figure out some time during the quarter that we can't work with >>>>> Phabricator >>>>> at all, we switch back to Trello and all we need to do is to add Q3's >>>>> tasks >>>>> back to it. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dan Andreescu < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So those are the reasons I have, off the top of my head. Other >>>>>>> reasons? Counter-arguments? Post em here. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Agreed, Phabricator is a good tool, and great if it creates a single >>>>>> place where we manage our projects. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not all great though. Trello has a much more refined >>>>>> notification system and much prettier interface. Mingle has more >>>>>> powerful >>>>>> queries, Asana is more to the point, etc. We've been over these and >>>>>> decided as an organization to move towards Phabricator, I'm certainly not >>>>>> trying to dig up old wounds. I do want to say though: bring those >>>>>> positive >>>>>> experiences when you switch from a system you like. Because Phabricator >>>>>> is >>>>>> open source and the Facebook team that maintains it has been super >>>>>> friendly >>>>>> and helpful to us during our migration. If we criticize it >>>>>> constructively, >>>>>> Phabricator will only get better. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Analytics mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Analytics mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Analytics mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Analytics mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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