I meant talking about Phab in R&D Staff at 1:30pm Pacific tomorrow, but Kevin and I talk about Phab & prioritization process at the 7:30am Pacific Combined staff meeting.
Agenda items I have for Combined staff are: Visualization roadmap for EL Product Instrumentation & Visualization goals for Q3: - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2014-15_Goals/Q3#Product_Instrumentation_and_Visualization - On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> wrote: > Sure -- I need to send out an agenda for consolidated staff tomorrow, but > perhaps you and Kevin can share your experiences and talk about the dev > process and use of fab? > > [Note -- we will have staff tomorrow] > > -Toby > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Grace Gellerman < > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Should we talk more about this in our Research staff meeting on Tuesday? >> >> I agree that we need to figure out prioritization process first. Also >> keeping two systems active could lead to requests going into two places >> which could affect the workflow of prioritization. >> >> I see the advantages to using Phab, but haste can sometimes, ya know, >> make waste. So let's talk about this more... >> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Toby Negrin <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> To be clear - I do not want to move to Fabricator without reviewing our >>> prioritization process. >>> >>> Shall we make this a Q3 goal since people seem really into it? >>> >>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Leila Zia <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Oliver, >>> >>> I'd like to give Phabricator a try. I suggest the following steps if >>> we decide to do it: >>> >>> 1. We block a 15-min team time in December during which R&D will >>> play with Phabricator in https://phab-01.wmflabs.org/ If we all feel >>> reasonably comfortable, then, >>> 2. We switch to Phabricator in January, at the beginning of Q3, and >>> we aim to try it for one quarter [1]. If it works, great, if not, >>> 3. We go back to Trello. >>> >>> Leila >>> >>> [1] During the quarter, we keep Trello but we don't update it. If we >>> figure out some time during the quarter that we can't work with Phabricator >>> at all, we switch back to Trello and all we need to do is to add Q3's tasks >>> back to it. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Dan Andreescu <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> So those are the reasons I have, off the top of my head. Other reasons? >>>>> Counter-arguments? Post em here. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Agreed, Phabricator is a good tool, and great if it creates a single >>>> place where we manage our projects. >>>> >>>> It's not all great though. Trello has a much more refined notification >>>> system and much prettier interface. Mingle has more powerful queries, >>>> Asana is more to the point, etc. We've been over these and decided as an >>>> organization to move towards Phabricator, I'm certainly not trying to dig >>>> up old wounds. I do want to say though: bring those positive experiences >>>> when you switch from a system you like. Because Phabricator is open source >>>> and the Facebook team that maintains it has been super friendly and helpful >>>> to us during our migration. If we criticize it constructively, Phabricator >>>> will only get better. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Analytics mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Analytics mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > >
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