Sure, but ownership does not mean "knows everything" it means "Makes sure it gets done". MediaWiki is owned by everyone, sure, but the actual idea of what MediaWiki core is has a team. The MediaWiki core team.
On 3 December 2015 at 13:07, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >>So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is owned >> simultaneously by everyone? > Sure, just like mediawiki codebase is collectively own. > > Personally I do not see that as a problem and regardless I think it reflects > reality, analytics team -as I mentioned before- doesn't have the knowledge > or authority to "decide" what constitutes a search pageview without talking > to the team/devs/community memebers that actually know how search works. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So the pageview definition, one of our core organisational KPIs, is >> owned simultaneously by everyone? >> >> On 3 December 2015 at 12:54, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Who does own it? >> > On our opinion every team should own the definition of a pageview in >> > their >> > product right and when in doubt analytics or research can be involved to >> > provide feedback on lessons learned. >> > >> > For example: who is best qualified than IOS team to decide what >> > constitutes >> > a page in the IOS app? >> > >> > With that in mind I have created a ticket to define what constitutes a >> > Search pageview: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120249 >> > >> > Let me know what is a good discovery project to tag this ticket with so >> > this >> > ticket gets some visibility. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Nuria >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2 December 2015 at 15:38, Nuria Ruiz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>It's true that MediaWiki supports search based solely on the ?search >> >> >> query >> >> >> parameter. Regardless of whether title=Special:Search is specified. >> >> >>This is mostly for legacy reasons as search predates the concept of >> >> >> special >> >> >> pages. >> >> >>However, would it make sense to instead count these as page views for >> >> >> 'Special:Search'? >> >> > >> >> > One thing worth clarifying is that analytics team doesn't own the >> >> > pageview >> >> > definition (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Page_view), we >> >> > implement it to the best of our ability. Deciding what constitutes a >> >> > pageview for search falls on the search team as they are the ones >> >> > that >> >> > know >> >> > their functionality best (substitute "search team" by "some entity >> >> > with >> >> > knowledge of mediawiki's search abilities") According to Timo's >> >> > comment >> >> > it >> >> > seems that "?search" requests should be counted as true pageviews but >> >> > let us >> >> > know otherwise via phab ticket or this list. >> >> > >> >> >> >> Who does own it? >> >> >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > >> >> > Nuria >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Oliver Keyes, 02/12/2015 18:52: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Via Brian Davis we find out the responsible patch is >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> https://github.com/wikimedia/analytics-refinery-source/commit/05e5da92553dbd3e691eb45d40e559895337935f >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Context: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research_talk:Page_view/Archive_1#Parameters_appended_to_short_URLs >> >> >> >> >> >> Nemo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Analytics mailing list >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Analytics mailing list >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Oliver Keyes >> >> Count Logula >> >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Analytics mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Analytics mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Oliver Keyes >> Count Logula >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Analytics mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > > > > _______________________________________________ > Analytics mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics > -- Oliver Keyes Count Logula Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Analytics mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics
